Well, after searching the Victory forums over many days, posting questions with virtually no replies, I have made the big jump and went with what Conquest Customs offers with the swept 2-2 Freedom Performance pipes, the VFC-3 controller and an Idle Pipe and air intake that LLoydz makes. I wish the Victory forums were as full and developed at the Suzuki Boulevard M50 Marauder site is. On that site you can find all kinds of good help, folks reply and there is tons of info about working on your bike and that model has been around only since 2005. I think that once I get tired of this Victory I'm heading to Harley. At least with H-D there are tons of sites to go to, amazing dealer network and support and the products available for H-D are out of this world. Sorry guys, Victory has great product but the folks riding don't participate in the forums and the dealers are so lackluster it isn't even funny. Andy, if you want to send a message to Victory......well......tell them keep trying but it's not looking too good out here.