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Exhaust for my HighBall the big decision

2.1K views 21 replies 9 participants last post by  High_Ball_Ken  
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Well, after searching the Victory forums over many days, posting questions with virtually no replies, I have made the big jump and went with what Conquest Customs offers with the swept 2-2 Freedom Performance pipes, the VFC-3 controller and an Idle Pipe and air intake that LLoydz makes. I wish the Victory forums were as full and developed at the Suzuki Boulevard M50 Marauder site is. On that site you can find all kinds of good help, folks reply and there is tons of info about working on your bike and that model has been around only since 2005. I think that once I get tired of this Victory I'm heading to Harley. At least with H-D there are tons of sites to go to, amazing dealer network and support and the products available for H-D are out of this world. Sorry guys, Victory has great product but the folks riding don't participate in the forums and the dealers are so lackluster it isn't even funny. Andy, if you want to send a message to Victory......well......tell them keep trying but it's not looking too good out here.
 
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Did you want some cheese with that whine? Ken people here and on the other Vic sites are extremely helpful IMHO. It's really not that hard to find pipes for a Highball, I just did a search on you tube and came up with several, complete with sound bites and video. Bassani, Hacker, RPW, Ness, etc.. Being the Highball is built on a Vegas frame, there are several options depending on what you're looking for.
 
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High_Ball_Ken said:
Sorry guys, Victory has great product but the folks riding don't participate in the forums and the dealers are so lackluster it isn't even funny. Andy, if you want to send a message to Victory......well......tell them keep trying but it's not looking too good out here.
I can understand you frustration with the dealers but Victory has no control over forum participation or aftermarket. Plus correct me if I'm wrong but the highball has only been on the market for 2 years and Victory is still very young in the motorcycle word. The Marauder may have only been on the market since 2005 but Suzuki has had years to develop followers. Aftermarket companies are just now starting to develop confidence that Victory isn't just another passing fad and they are starting to build stuff for our bikes. The future for these bikes is looking better but if you are not willing to wait for it maybe you'll come back later after they develop some. I'm willing to wait because I know they make a quality bike and that is my main thing, reliability, not aftermarket or forum support(I'm pretty damn happy with the VOG though). Hope you like the upgrades for your High Ball and you know you are always welcome here even if you do ditch it for an HD.
 
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If your going to jump on the Harley band wagon why bother putting money into the high ball? I guess I live diffrently then most folks cause I value quality over quantity :10500:
 
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Hey Ken - for all your needs you only need a couple of sites - in no particular order Witchdoctor http://buywitchdoctors.com/ Lloydz Motorworkz http://www.lloydz.com/ Conquest Customs http://www.conquestcustoms.com/ Kewl Metal http://www.kewlmetalstore.com/index.php?cPath=26 Any questions or parts - these guys will get it done. You could always do what I have done, I own and ride both a Harley and a Victory. I enjoy the Victory more for handling and motor. But, I like both of them.
 
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Yep, I found all those sites on my own pretty much ddawg. Bought LLoyds stuff and Conquest Customs supplied it all including the Freedom Performance pipes. Thanks for the few responses vs. views. My complaint is typical of a brand that has so few bikes on the road by comparison to the Motor Co. that it just can't compete when it comes to servicing it's followers. Sorry to say. I do believe Victory has the best product out there, truly I do. I've logged nearly 60,000 miles in less then 6 years and this HighBall has served me for 8 months and 10,000+ miles. How many of you Victory riders reading this post have logged more miles then me on your Victory in same or less time? I've put these miles on my bike Fall-Winter-Spring. I began riding at age 45 and am now 51. I manufacture a product line for the Suzuki Boulevard M50, C50 and M90 bikes and market and ship daily to the U.S. and the world. It's a very small niche in my company and mostly something I do for fun but it pays for my motorcycling too. LOL As I stated I do believe Victory makes the best bike in so many ways and I'm proud it comes from our Heartland (Iowa) being that I'm from Illinois, another Corn and Bean state, LOL. God Bless Victory, God Bless the U.S.A. Why am I putting money into this Victory? Because after 5 plus years and 15 bikes logging in almost 60,000 miles I'm tired of trading and just want to keep something for longer then a year. LOL
 
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So asking about mileage. I'm at 108000km (67000+ miles) in a little over 2 years on my 2010 XR. I've only been stranded once due to a battery malfunction, nothing to do with the bike. I believe that low numbers of Victory owners and high mileage riders is the main reasons behind lack of forum membership.
 
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Dang Ken are you serious? You want to ditch" the best bike made" which means you're going to get rid of a superior product and replace it with an inferior one...because a chorus of ass kissers didn't descend upon your post on a forum and sing your praises for riding a bunch of miles? And you find the rest of us to be such a bunch of useless losers you come on here and make this thread why??? The VOG has over 9000 registered users. The VMC has over 3500 paid members and over 30 paid vendors. There's about half a dozen other forums I know of, but am not as familiar with. Did you ever stop and think maybe it wasn't the 9000 that weren't replying, maybe it's the ONE that is asking??? If you really have come on here and truly checked out this forum you would have seen countless threads of people getting help so obviously people are getting questions answered. If you're not one of them I would suggest rephrasing your question before you call a group of 9000 bikers useless.
 
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BTW...for ddawg and the rest of us losers who might be interested, I just looked up Ken's original post. He was given six options in five responses to his question, including a response from dahc to check out the Freedom pipes from Conquest. Which he just told ddawg he had to " pretty much find on his own ". Make your own calls...
 
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High_Ball_Ken said:
Yep, I found all those sites on my own pretty much ddawg. Bought LLoyds stuff and Conquest Customs supplied it all including the Freedom Performance pipes. Thanks for the few responses vs. views. My complaint is typical of a brand that has so few bikes on the road by comparison to the Motor Co. that it just can't compete when it comes to servicing it's followers. Sorry to say. I do believe Victory has the best product out there, truly I do. I've logged nearly 60,000 miles in less then 6 years and this HighBall has served me for 8 months and 10,000+ miles. How many of you Victory riders reading this post have logged more miles then me on your Victory in same or less time? I've put these miles on my bike Fall-Winter-Spring. I began riding at age 45 and am now 51. I manufacture a product line for the Suzuki Boulevard M50, C50 and M90 bikes and market and ship daily to the U.S. and the world. It's a very small niche in my company and mostly something I do for fun but it pays for my motorcycling too. LOL As I stated I do believe Victory makes the best bike in so many ways and I'm proud it comes from our Heartland (Iowa) being that I'm from Illinois, another Corn and Bean state, LOL. God Bless Victory, God Bless the U.S.A. Why am I putting money into this Victory? Because after 5 plus years and 15 bikes logging in almost 60,000 miles I'm tired of trading and just want to keep something for longer then a year. LOL
Damnit man - you are putting on a lot of miles!!! In my book, that is pretty darn impressive. B-safe and don't disappear. We need your input. Ride safe, ride fast! :thumbup:
 
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bored76 said:
So asking about mileage. I'm at 108000km (67000+ miles) in a little over 2 years on my 2010 XR. I've only been stranded once due to a battery malfunction, nothing to do with the bike. I believe that low numbers of Victory owners and high mileage riders is the main reasons behind lack of forum membership.
Hey - I heard you like to ride from Canada to Arizona. Logging basically 34,000 miles a year - holy crap - that serious time in the saddle. We have some real iron men here on the VOG and you are definitely one of them. Impressive. B-safe and enjoy. You know my motto: Ride safe, ride fast!
 
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High_Ball_Ken said:
I've logged nearly 60,000 miles in less then 6 years and this HighBall has served me for 8 months and 10,000+ miles. How many of you Victory riders reading this post have logged more miles then me on your Victory in same or less time?
I can say I have... A bad year for me is 30,000 miles. My peak year 2008-2009 season was 58,000 miles.
 
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Just read this and had to chuckle... This site has some of the highest numbers of activity of any motorcycle site. I belong to several Suzuki forums and kawasaki forums and none of them even come close. You basically have four guys answering all the questions... HD has a lot of parts, they should since they are over 100 years old. But with a lot of parts come inferior quality if you are not careful. Lastly, how many responses did you want to a subject that has been beat to death. You might as well asked what type of oil to use. There are probably 10 threads on Highball exhaust with pictures. The search function in the forum section works great for getting that information. I cant believe you would say that you have the best built bike and be willing to trade it for an inferior product because of some farkle? I havent yet to find something I wanted for the bikes that wasnt made by some of the quality venders we have here...
 
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dsjr said:
I can say I have... A bad year for me is 30,000 miles. My peak year 2008-2009 season was 58,000 miles.
Dayumn! I'm a piker. I've never cracked 25,000 mile in my primary driving car. Never. I drive a Crew Cab diesel P/U, it's 7 yrs. old, and I just cracked 100,000 miles! That's about 14,000 per year in my primary vehicle. That's cuz I spend hours on the Fwy here in L.A. and only move 35 miles. It's a parking lot.
 
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ddawg said:
Dayumn! I'm a piker. I've never cracked 25,000 mile in my primary driving car. Never. I drive a Crew Cab diesel P/U, it's 7 yrs. old, and I just cracked 100,000 miles! That's about 14,000 per year in my primary vehicle. That cuz I spend hours on the Fwy here in L.A. and only move 35 miles. It's a parking.
I remember that living in NYC but here in Florida a good day is 200 miles a bad day is about 700 miles. Last year I did a total of 70,000 miles between cars and bikes...
 
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It wasn't the mileage it was the absence of response to my exhaust questions that garnered my comments. Read my posts.
iabob said:
Dang Ken are you serious? You want to ditch" the best bike made" which means you're going to get rid of a superior product and replace it with an inferior one...because a chorus of a$$ kissers didn't descend upon your post on a forum and sing your praises for riding a bunch of miles? And you find the rest of us to be such a bunch of useless losers you come on here and make this thread why??? The VOG has over 9000 registered users. The VMC has over 3500 paid members and over 30 paid vendors. There's about half a dozen other forums I know of, but am not as familiar with. Did you ever stop and think maybe it wasn't the 9000 that weren't replying, maybe it's the ONE that is asking??? If you really have come on here and truly checked out this forum you would have seen countless threads of people getting help so obviously people are getting questions answered. If you're not one of them I would suggest rephrasing your question before you call a group of 9000 bikers useless.
I'm not saying I would ditch my bike due to the forums, I am simply saying I'm disappointed with what I find on the forums when it comes to response specific to questions asked. I didn't ask my question on any forum in a High Ball specific thread but rather in a general area so that Vegas guys could respond as I know full well that my High Ball is just a dressed up Vegas, (or dressed down as it were). I find the forums to be less then what I've found on others. I'm not being mean about it, but I am being a critic of a sort. I would like to see more threads that are stickys for specific things done to the Victorys that would be easy ways for forum members to find good info. I am not one to just jump on and not do searches, I do the searches before I post threads. I know Victory is a small brand. It always will be perhaps. I'm not one to jump into the "boutique" thing either with Harley. I bought my Vic because when choosing another big engine motorcycle I wanted the Vic engine over the Harley big twin believing that it is superior. This is one reason why I am choosing to invest another $1,400.00 in a special exhaust system and intake. I plan to wear out this bike. But once I do, I hope in a couple years that Victory has matured and we see more dedication on the forums and find that the Vic is still a good choice over what H-D has to offer. I'm not going back to the Japanese brands for my cruisers. Thanks for understanding and not beating me up.
 
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FActs are a funny thing
iabob said:
BTW...for ddawg and the rest of us losers who might be interested, I just looked up Ken's original post. He was given six options in five responses to his question, including a response from dahc to check out the Freedom pipes from Conquest. Which he just told ddawg he had to " pretty much find on his own ". Make your own calls...
Actually the responses came days later. It's just not an active forum. If you had seen the views vs. replies you would have seen what I did. You got in on this way too late my friend. Also, fact is no one responded to my original questions regarding the Bassani's. It's just a slow response forum and a bunch of drive bys who would rather look then reply with help. The responses that have come now are way late of when I asked and in fact responses driven by my complaint and not my original request which in fact hammers home my concern. I still say, make up some sticky's on things that make sense for each model of bike. Exhaust, etc. Many forums for Vic's and not much of value IMHO. I monitored this forum for months with most of the replies in the political thread. What a waste.
 
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Hey Ken - stop yelling at me. You're making me nervous! :eek:hmy: :sweatdrop: :w00t: :laugh: I agree with you. That's why I have both a Victory and a Harley. My Victory I love to ride. It is excellent. MY Harley, is a work in progress. I am putting all kinds of parts on it - because I am looking for a look. The aftermarket parts are off the charts. I like my project bike - it looks bitchin. It is evolving. By the same token, I love my Victory riding bike - it's my sweet thang.
 
#20 ·
Sorry to hear you feel like you were ignored. I have had every question answered on here even my rookie mistake oil thread question. I love this site and have found tons of useful info. Keep in mind the high ball and my favorite the Judge are new models so a lot of the views with no response may be people who have the same question as you and don't know the answer. Good luck with whatever you decide to ride. I feel like I made the right choice in bike and forum.
 
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High_Ball_Ken said:
Actually the responses came days later. It's just not an active forum. If you had seen the views vs. replies you would have seen what I did. You got in on this way too late my friend. Also, fact is no one responded to my original questions regarding the Bassani's. It's just a slow response forum and a bunch of drive bys who would rather look then reply with help. The responses that have come now are way late of when I asked and in fact responses driven by my complaint and not my original request which in fact hammers home my concern. I still say, make up some sticky's on things that make sense for each model of bike. Exhaust, etc. Many forums for Vic's and not much of value IMHO. I monitored this forum for months with most of the replies in the political thread. What a waste.
Alright, then let me try being helpful in another way and carry over a conversation from another thread. Yes, the VOG is mostly just guys who share a common interest in Victorys talking. I believe a LOT of technical questions do get answered but politics and off topic generate a lot of traffic. If you are trying to research a topic, technical in nature, and Victory specific...while you MAY find your answer here that is probably not what the VOG is best at. Over on the VMC the Highball specific forum has 82 threads with 731 posts. Add Vegas and Kingpin, same exhaust mounts to all three, and you have 2737 threads with 28,604 posts and counting. But word to the wise, a lot of responses to questions like yours will be " use the search function, that's what it's there for!" instead of just giving you the answer...wish it was nicer over there but then again that's why I like to come here too. Good luck.
 
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thanks iabob,
I agree with you. The VOG is a great forum but not necessarily "technical".
I'm not railing on you guys or the forum or Victory. I actually did ask these same questions on two other forums I belong to and foun plenty would read my comments but no replies or just one.
No worries, I'm a big boy. You can find me on the motorcycle-journal.com site and forums for Maruader Secret Hideaway. I make parts for the M50, C50 and M90 motorcycles and ship them globally every week. I first began riding Suzuki Boulevard M50's. Fell in love with the bike but found my neck hurt from the reach. I had no clue you could change bars, risers, etc. when I first began riding. Once I bought my second M50 after owning four other bikes I had the same pain in the neck. Ended up buying out a guy who was CNCmachining riser spacer blocks and after three years find I'm in the aftermarket motorcycle parts business making many parts for those bikes. It's been good and helps to pay for my motorcycle habit, err, I mean hobby.
I have a great wife you loves me too!
This Victory is the best bike I've owned. Honestly after owning 15 new bikes in 5 years and logging in over 55k miles in that time period I must say the Vic Highball is the only bike I can say I want to change nothing on. Well, except the exhaust after 10,000 miles I decided I needed to "warm up" the sound. These Freedom Perfomance pipes did the trick and the Lloyds airbox and idle air valve and VFC -gen3 controller gave it 24 more horse (they say). I know it has more horse power and boy does it scoot. Sound is about right no too loud but not as quiet perhaps as my sons H-D 883 Screaming Eagles. It was his bike that made me want to warm up those on the Vic.
I'm a motorcycle lover and appreciate this forum. Bear with me as I share my experiences but don't cut me off, I'm just speaking my mind.
Go Victory!