[wingit3611]

Simple fix is the best fix. I was reading article in an old MCM magazine about an attachable lower front fender for a BMW.One required hole be drilled in the fender to be attached with bolts. We have hole where the plastic push button rivets fit. THEY DON'T HOLD TIGHT OF THE FENDER WOULD NOT BLOW BACK TO GET CAUGHT. The other had bolts with a nut that grabbed the outer edge of the fender.Now if we had some kinda of small butter fly nut &bolt to put in and tieghten then that would hold the fender by its self. Take the strain of the side bolts. My chalangeis to find the perfect bolt & nut to do this. Something to slip in from the top & tieghten, it needs to grip the under side of the rear fender. A bolt & nut is the first simple answer, but hard to work with, with the tire in place. Maybe a bolt with some kinda"L" on it that would slip thru the hole & tieghten up. WE NEED IDEAS! It mite take me a year to figure out the perfect bolt & nut deal! I guess we need a nut specialist!

 

[SpidermanOhio]

OK - so, I hope we can get back to some constructive comments as it relates to the original matter at hand. WitchDoctor now has completed the one piece fender and my Vision was the prototype/beta bike. We installed it on the Vision 10/13/2013 and I quickly put about 500 miles on it. Most of it through twisty roads in SE Ohio. I can say that I am very pleased with the outcome. Some of you may have seen this on other threads but I decided to repost the pictures here. Call WitchDoctor or send him a PM with questions on the availability and pricing of the new fender. My fender problem is now fixed with this one piece design by WitchDoctor and I will no longer worry about the OEM plastic part breaking and locking up my steering.

Hope you all like the new product from WitchDoctor.....it's made out of fiberglass and reinforced with kevlar at the bolt on areas. This thing will not break.

 

[bruceboy]

Looks like a great solution to the fender issue and I know Jon will stand behind his products....For me although, it is now a non-issue as I traded my 2011 Vision for a Honda F6B and absolutely love the thing so far...My Vision was the best bike I had ever owned until now, although the jury is still out, the power delivery, smoothness and comfort on the F6B is outstanding!!!.....Good Luck to all and ride safe....

 

[Sutherland]

So no disrespect to jon but what makes this fender so different, safer (what testing has been done to prove its better that what Victory has or even if it is safe) or better that the other three manufactures out there that are already producing a product to fix this problem. From what I read on most of the forums the riders of this model are hoping it will be Cheaper than the other three already out there.. Victory being the one that did all the testing for their motorcycles now has to compete with other's that think they know better. Kind of a double standard if I say so myself
Regards

 

[Oldman47]

I grow weary of your nay saying Sutherland. Do you have anything to contribute at all?

 

[Sutherland]

I grow weary of your nay saying Sutherland. Do you have anything to contribute at all?

Seems to me this question has been asked on many fourms you belong to, I have not seen you ask that same question there, Beginning to wonder if you are in the picture or not. or is it just because a NONVISION rider made this comment.
Regards

 

[Peteoz]

From what I read on most of the forums the riders of this model are hoping it will be Cheaper than the other three already out there.. Victory being the one that did all the testing for their motorcycles now has to compete with other's that think they know better. Kind of a double standard if I say so myself
Regards

WTF ?? That has to be some of the most warped logic I have come across. It simply confirms that you have comprehended very little of what has actually been said in the posts on this thread.....Oldman and Biggie contribute significantly to Vision issues and are highly regarded here. So far, I have not seen such a contribution from you. I will not be responding to your comments in future and would urge others to do the same as Planet Sutherland obviously does not use the same logic as Planet Earth so reason is useless.. Pete

 

[SpidermanOhio]

A nameless member (he can chime in if he wants to) of the VOG has a VP level contact at Victory put me and Bigfoot in charge with Ryan Guy about this finder issue. I talked with Ryan Guy from Victory yesterday evening. Ryan is in charge of all consumer affairs for Victory. For those of you that talked to Wes - Ryan is Wes' boss. He really did not tell me anything different than Wes. However, I feel like he now understands that the Victory community is taking this issue seriously and do not accept the response that Victory is standing behind. I made sure he understood that even though the major failure has only been reported by a limited amount of riders that many others have reported the cracks. It is my strong belief that many of the complete failures are being averted due to the exposure we are giving the issue via the forums, facebook and face to face with other riders. He actually agreed with this. I also said there are hundreds, potentially thousands of people that don't visit forums and facebook. Bottom line, they are not planning to change their response on the issue.

It was a very professional discussion and I made sure he understood we are not a handful of guys sitting in a room trying to figure out how we are going to bash Victory. Our motivation is to get the word out, keep people safe and to work with Victory to develop a fix. Honestly, I think they are coming up with a redesign soon and they are focused on that rather than a fix for older Vision - just my opinion.

Anyway, that was it. I am moving on. I will continue to make others aware of it when I have the opportunity. I have fixed mine with the WitchDoctor fender - which is really well done (and I made Ryan aware of that too).

This will most likely be my last post on this thread about the issue. I feel like I have done as much as I can do to get the word out, elevate the issue to Victory and do my part to come up with a non-Victory fix.

I would like to thank Bigfoot, DSJR70, OT and Andy for their support on this issue. I have had many discussions with these guys behind the scenes. You are all class acts.

Ride safe!

 

[jandjp]

I am sure Jon's fender is awsome however I was hoping for a fix that did not include me spending 4 to 5 hundred dollars.

 

[Vladezip]

Hopefully things will get resolved. Will need to check my fender when I get home from work today.I too am not interested in paying 400-500 bucks for a new fender. From my standpoint, I think this is a matter of principle. As Big Foot said, we are talking a few bucks at most for each unit sold, which includes labor charges. Are you willing to stand behind your product and deal with legitimate "seasoned rider and victory owners concerns?" I will be following this issue closely since I am "old school" and principle and common sense go a long way with me. As I mentioned before, the Vision is the only bike in the Victory lineup that I would actually own to date andI have no "brand loyalty," so this may impact my future purchase.

 

[Bigfoot]

I noticed on another thread that Harley has issued a recall on a large number (29,000) of their 2013 vehicles due to a potential loss of vehicle control.
Good for Harley.

Harley is obviously concerned about the safety of their riders.

I also posted this to Victory's FaceBook page.
Ryan Guy should have had the decency to call me back after saying he would.

 

[TLarr]

I want to thank all for the "heads up" on this fender issue. The rear portion of the front fender is an "out of sight-out of mind" part of the body and I never would have caught the fact that the right side bolt hole had already broken and the fender was hanging by 1 bolt on the left side and the 2 grommets (?) that attach it to the front half of the front fender. This is only after 16K miles!!! A disaster waiting to happen.
After reading this thread I bought the fiberglass replacement and then took my broken part to my local dealer. I didn't expect to get a warranty replacement, but just in case of a recall or something I wanted to be on record.
To my surprise I just received a call from my dealer saying the factory is going to honor my warranty and replace the part. I am going to keep the fiberglass unit on in hopes that it will be more durable. I will keep the replacement part from Victory in case I need it in the future.
I just wanted to say maybe Ma Vic is listening and starting to stand behind making this design flaw right.

 

[tawasbob]

It seems that the majority of Vision owners will have this problem if they ride their bikes long enough. I for one will not buy a replacement rear front fender from Victory, and if I have to buy any kind of replacement I will keep the old parts and raiseas much hellas I can. I may try to get newspapers, TV stations, US congressmen/Senators, etc. to takethis issue up. This is a SAFETY ISSUE and we need to put some serious pressure on the Company.
Now that the weather is closing in on us in Michigan I might take the fender off and check it over. Only 14,500 mileson the bike so far and I thinkthat is a little early for it to show up. Maybe I can reinforce or strengthenthe attachment points somehow to head off the problem.

 

[azdave]

The problem lies in the alteration. Your issue with Victory will now become your problem with alteration. Certain glues will eat the plastic so Vic will say not us YOU. Grommets resulted in extra pressure on fender, not us YOU. And so on

 

[bikendad]

I want to thank all for the "heads up" on this fender issue. The rear portion of the front fender is an "out of sight-out of mind" part of the body and I never would have caught the fact that the right side bolt hole had already broken and the fender was hanging by 1 bolt on the left side and the 2 grommets (?) that attach it to the front half of the front fender. This is only after 16K miles!!! A disaster waiting to happen.
After reading this thread I bought the fiberglass replacement and then took my broken part to my local dealer. I didn't expect to get a warranty replacement, but just in case of a recall or something I wanted to be on record.
To my surprise I just received a call from my dealer saying the factory is going to honor my warranty and replace the part. I am going to keep the fiberglass unit on in hopes that it will be more durable. I will keep the replacement part from Victory in case I need it in the future.
I just wanted to say maybe Ma Vic is listening and starting to stand behind making this design flaw right.

If Ma Vic were truly listening and concerned they would issue a re-call! You caught this on your own, think of the thousands of bikes out there with owners that are not aware of the problem, a disaster just waiting to happen.

 

[Monkeyman]

Since I have a brand new rear section, I decided to reinstall the OE fender today. It's certainly gotten colder since mine cracked so I think I'll use this as an experiment of sorts. I'll completely remove the rear section every 500 miles to look for cracks. Maybe it will crack faster with the cold weather (or maybe not). If it does, it might go a ways towards figuring out what's causing this to begin with. I'm hoping it won't go from no cracks to completely broken within 500 miles and I'll at least get some sort of heads up before I die a fiery death. (Why is "fire" spelled differently than "fiery"? Shouldn't it be "firey"?)

 

[Oldman47]

MM relax, and don't worry about that with your CDO, that is OCD with the letters in alphabetical order "as they should be".

 

[azdave]

Considering trading to XC. But if I keep Vision going with a 1 piece full fender from Kewl or WD. Vic needs to offer a one piece replacement. 2 piece fender makes no sense

 

[Vladezip]

I think it is an important part of your service by looking the rear of the front fender over with every oil change or once/month which ever comes first. Living in AZ and riding all year around we deal with significant temp differences. Did a nice 400 mile leisure ride with brother on Sat with an occassional watering hole along the way in northern Az. Temperature range from 50-90 degrees that day. Will keep you posted if this makes a difference. I have an 09 that I bought used and put about 8000 miles on since this past June, but the bike only had 5600 on the odometer when I bought it so way below what most of you all have logged on thus far.
Victory marketed the Vision as being futuristic and ahead of it's time. The only thing that I found futuristic and ahead of its time on the bike is the dress. Other then that, it may be leaps and bounds ahead of HD, but so is every other motorcycle manufacturer. The Vision is still very much "OL School" compared to BMW even though there were BMW engineers on the payroll during Vision development. The Vision is the best handling "heavy weight" Vtwin tourer that I have ever ridden, which is important to me coming from a sports touring background. I find myself giggling like a school boy man handling this tank in the twisties, but hats down she will do it and do it effortlessly. That alone is worth the price of admission in my book. Overall, I am happy with the bike, but will most likely not buy another Victory in the future. I think Victory needs to spend more time and effort on the overall fit and finish in addition to added attention to detail. Let's face it, the Vision owners I have met are serious riders that like to log miles and could care less if they are on a Jetson's bike and have no interest in the HD retro "glide" either. With that being said, will the Vision hold up in the long run up against the Goldwing or BMW K1600GTL? I personally don't know. You will have to make up your own mind about that, but sooner than later that "Goldwing" word does pop up in my circle of friends that like long distance touring.
Maybe the powers that be have their hands full with the Indian roll out. They will have Demo rides here in Az on Nov 15th. I am looking forward to it even though I have no interest in purchasing one. It's fun to go ride on someone else's dime and maybe throw down a few hot dogs while you're at it.

 

[98741]

I was look worm at best about the Indian, until I did the Indian demo day. I was very impressed with all facets of the Indian.