I just got done installing my new true duals this morning. I got the chrome tip version. They look great much nicer then to OE pipes. As for the sound. It is the best sounding exhaust I've ever heard. Nice mellow rumble at idle and cruise. When you hit the throttle WOW is all I can say. The sound is amazing. Fit and finish were very good. The only thing I don't like is that the left pipe is in the way of the kick Stand. So it is really tricky to find it with my heal it put down. I hope I can get used to it but if not I might try a kick stand extention. If your thinking about them stop thinking and start ordering. In my humble opinion it is the best exhaust currently available for cross bikes.
New Freedom Performance True Duals installed
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Thanks for this post. this is the answer that I wanted to hear.I have a high a dollar PC and good external speakers ,so I thought that the sound of the Freedom Performance true duals might be pretty close tohow they really sound in person. When I hit 3,000 rpm up to 4,000 rpms,my Nascar6 mufflers ,with the 2 1/2 inch baffles have a HUGE BASS sound. Think BIG BLOCK chevy! But, I,m really thinking about the Freedom Performance true duals because of the sweet rumble this exhaust makes at cruising speeds.The_Hanselhoff said:
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well,i got my set today,through my buddy at motorcycle emhancement via witch doctor (saved a bit of $$) not having to pay through the nose with courriers when crossing the border .hopefully my girl should be whole again (tins are going to paint shop for clearcoat) will try to post pics when she's together oh ya ,i got the chrome ones..........with black tips of course lol
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I bit the bullet and placed an order for the Freedom Performance true dual with the black end caps. Also ordered two oem exhaust gaskets, and two chrome oygen sensor plugs as well. My plan is to have a friend shoot a ride by video of me on my Cross Country tour when I get this exhaust system mounted.alby1600 said:
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According to my UPS tracking number that I got from WitchDoctor, the Freedom Performance true duals should arrive at my house by 3:30 pm on 3/12. Lording willing, I should have this exhaust mounted and able totake my bike fora test rideby lateafter noon.This is a question for those forum members that have installed the Freedom Performance true duals
id you hand tighten the head pipes snug with a wrench and use lock tight ( blue )or did you use a torque wrench?
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Just to add my hat to the ring. I too installed the Freedom True duals and agree that they sound awesome...just loud enough but not obnoxious. I was already running a programmer with autotune. I may have lost a tiny bit of HP at the very top end but I gained a very noticable amount of torque on the low end. I very seldom shift out of sixth gear whenclimbing steep hills at anything over 70 mph.
I welded a tab on the end of the kickstand so I can find it with my heal.
I found them for$700 with shipping on Amazon.
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I thought the price that I got from WitchDoctors was the best price that I could get on the Freedom Performance true dual exhaust, but you beat the $849.99 price that I payed at WitchDoctor for this same exhaust (this was with a discount coupon too! ) plus the shipping cost added too.Oldphart said:
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If it makes you feel any better first I paid close to $1000 for the stage one set up from Victory when the bike was new. Then not happy with that I cut the stock mufflers open and bought thrush mufflers that I installed then welded the shell back together...better but not quite right. Only then did I see the Freedom Exhaust on Amazon for $700.crosscountryla said:
To me they're perfect but my total out of pocket is more like $1800 so at $849 you're way ahead of me....
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Oldphart, sounds like you took about the same path I did. I tried the thrush mode too but it just wasn't quite right. I think the stock head pipe is the problem. The way it goes 2 into 1 then splits back to two messes up the sound. I also think that whole mess is the source of most of the heat people complain about.
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Why I waited a bit before changed anything .. First di a lot of searching and saving as well .. When Decided wanted the Freedom Duals also added Lloyds Filter and a PCV .. Been Happy ever since .. Timing Wheel and Cams in the Future Probably, but never ever felt underpowered or had a heat problem with this set up ..jchris56 said:
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The Lloyds timing wheel is one more part that I'd highly recommend adding. More pep inlow and mid range throttle responce. I have the Lloyds big air filter, PCV, Nascar6 ,high performance muffers, and my Cross Country tour pulled really good, but with the addition of the Lloyds timing wheel ( set at 6 degrees ), my enginebecame even more responsive. To meet the EPA mandates, the 106 engine is really choked down. The timing is retarded, air filter really restictive ,and the stock mufflers too. Installing the timing wheel is really easy, and don't cost much for the added pep that it gives to the 106 engine.JayFL726 said:
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UPS finally delived the Freedom Performance true duals that I bought from WitchDoctor at 7:30 pm. I pushed my Cross Country tour into the garage and closed the pull down door at 6:30 pm. Like forum members have posted already, the chrome work on this exhaust system is outstanding. I would imagine that this exhaust system barks really loud when ever you wind out the throttle from 3,,000 to 4,000 rpms. The spiral core mufflers go from 2 inches to 2 1/2 inches, and then finally to3 inches in diameter. Removing the two header pipes on my Cross Country tour , right floor board,oil fitler, from enginecover, was a whole lotenvoled than removing the stock mufflers ,and then installing the Nascar6 mufflers ,and on a later date,RC Components mufflers. I will say this though, the chrome finish on the RC Components mufflers and billet end caps look just as good as the Freedom Performance true duals ,and are also a lot cheaper too.
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I finally got the Freedom Performance true duals installed on my Cross Country tour. Installing this exhaust system is no walk in the park I'll tell that! Also, no where in the instruction sheetsdid I read that you should install the chrome heat shields on the front pipes before you bolt them on. After I got the whole exhaust system bolted up and then wiped the oil off of the pipes withsome alcohol on a clean rag, I then realized that I'd forgot to install the chrome heat shields. Arghhhhhhhh!I thenused a black felt marker and drew a line on the chrome heat shield exactly whereeach metalheat shieldclamp wassupposed tobe attached tothe pipe underneath it.I then had to bend the metal heat shield attachment clamps at different angles, hoping and praying that I'dbe ableto get the chrome heat shields attached and not have to take the saddle bags off, the mufffers off, and the front exhaust pipes off all over again. After a lot of frustration I was finally able to get the chrome heat shields attached to the pipe underneath it. Remember to attach the heat shields first before you install the front exhaust pipes! After I'd wiped the pipes down again with alcohol on rag, I started up the engine. The idle tone of the Freedom Performance true duals was'nt any deeper than my Nascar6 mufflers ,D&D boss ,unwrapped mufflers, or the RC Component mufflers. In my opinion the D&D mufflers and the Nascar6 mufflers pull a littleharder from 2,000-4,000 rpms than the Freedom Performance true duals do, butthe sound thatthe Freedom Performance true dualsmake when ever you windoutthethrottle hard from 3,000-4,000 rpms ,sure SOUNDSSWEET!When ever I woundout the throttle beside a car on the expressway, I could hear the sweet rumble of this exhaust bounce off of the car. Every one that has the Freedom Performance true duals hasposted that this is the best sounding exhaust system made for a Cross Country, and I agree!
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Ditto what you said!JayFL726 said:You will get used to finding the kickstand with no worries, just be careful stopped at lights for the left side Pipe sticking out a little .. Although don't take long to learn that either ..
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Maybe there's a variance from bike to bike or exhaust to exhaust but after installing the true duals there was no way anyone could have put the sidestand down with their foot. I welded an extension on at an upward angle so it didn't interfere with lean angle. I'm tall so my legs go out before going down but there are no issues with either my legs or a passenger's legs touching either pipe.
IMHO unplugging the O2 sensors should fatten the AFR enough without remapping.
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I,m 5' 11" and I have no problem leaning over and hooking the heel of my boot to catch the kickstand and then push it out since I installed the Freedom Performance true duals.
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Once I learnedhow to find the kick stand underneath the rear pipe than turns down and then back, I can now find it really easy by turning my heal side ways.
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My thoughts exactly about the kick stand! With a little practice , finding the kick stand with the heal of your boot will no longer be a problem.The Freedom Performance true dual exhaust sounds so darn good that I hardly ever listen to my radio any more unless it's a really long road trip.lol This exhaust sounds REALLY good when you're riding across a bridge with rails on either sideand you hear the exhaust sound echoing off of the bridge rails. You can then hearthe sweet rumble of this exhaust system a whole lot better. The Freedom Performance true duals have an exhausttonethat is unique to this 5 stepped, individual exhaust system unlike any bolt on performance muffler that's made for the Cross Country or Cross Roads.JayFL726 said:You will get used to finding the kickstand with no worries, just be careful stopped at lights for the left side Pipe sticking out a little .. Although don't take long to learn that either ..
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