Seems Barnett or stock is the choice these days for out bikes. Alto is no longer making clutches for Victory. Too bad he like that company. I did run into this company and wondering if anyone has had experience using these. View attachment 654048

Link?

 

That’s the thing. I dont have a link to send. Was hoping someone had a source. Full Throttle as @Sporty45 mentioned above is in Australia. This product may only be available there. Don’t know. The package says made in the USA. Someone posted this on one of the FB Victory sites.

 

Interesting. When I go to Energy One's website, they don't list anything for a Victory, including that part #. But when I search the web I can find it on multiple part supplier sites, like this one: ENERGY ONE CLUTCHES Clutch Kit. Fits Victory 2002-2017. - Full Throttle Motorcycles. Might be discontinued by Energy One.

 

Harbor freight has a selection of clutch options…

https://www.harborfreight.com/power-tools/grinding-cutting-wheels/grinding-wheels.html

 

OEM is a known excellent clutch. Even Rylan says he regularly sees 100K+ miles on an OEM Victory clutch.

 

I called Alto last fall and they said they should be getting in new stock by sometime this spring. Things might have changed. Maybe getting an OEM clutch kit for the shelf is bumping up the priority list.

 

I dont think so. a year or two ago all the Alto clutch packs for us were fire saled on ebay for around 200 bucks or less.

 

Pardon Our Interruption...

 

Alto brand. Best price I could find.

Amazon.com: Alto Products 095759 Steel Clutch Plate Kit : Automotive

Buy Alto Products 095759 Steel Clutch Plate Kit: Complete Clutch Sets - Amazon.com ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases

www.amazon.com

 

Alto brand. Best price I could find

Appears to be the steels only, no fiber plates included

 

Primary gasket. Best price I could find.

MG29595 For 2007-2017 Victory Vision Primary Clutch Cover Gasket | eBay

New Primary Clutch Cover Gasket for 2007-2017 Victory Vision.

www.ebay.com

 

There's a Victory clutch kit that includes all oem steels and friction discs. It's under oem part number: 2202434 and sells for about $650.

The entire Victory oem clutch assembly to include the basket, pressure plate, judder spring, lifter assembly plus all steels and friction discs etc. is under oem part number: 1332834. It sells for around $1,050. In this case, it's already completely assembled. Soak it in your proper JASA MA/2 oil of choice overnight. Remove the clutch basket nut and the old assembly and it goes back on the same way. Easy peasey.

Again, if an oem Victory clutch hasn't gone over 100K miles, it's likely been seriously abused, improperly adjusted and/or been subject to a full synthetic/oil not designed for a motorcycle wet clutch.

For me, an oem clutch assembly makes the most sense. If done properly, you have plenty of time to save up for one.

Hopefully @NHKingpin can confirm the part numbers I listed and the ballpark prices.

Support the Victory family members who support us.

 

Yes, that is the best way since everything would be matched and new.
I think Ed can get them for quite a bit less than the standard price. Definitely worth talking with him before ordering someplace else.

 

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I have a Barnett kit on the shelf. Wanted a 2nd set of clutches incase both bikes are in need. Stocking items that will be hard to find is going to be worth it now. I don’t plan on parting with these bikes. Sure I may add something new to the stable but my wife’s Magnum is hers and she plans on riding it more. Atleast she wants to. Next on my list is a starter, another regulator and another clutch pack. A led tail light and some Arlen Ness Turn signals. I love those turn signals. Want them on the Magnum. If I’m missing anything let me know.

 

A starter and regulator are a good idea.

These may not be a bad idea to stock either.

Starter Solenoid

Victory Starter Clutch One Way Sprag Bearing

Starter These aftermarket starters might be available for a while.

XC and Vision Regulator Aftermarket but who knows if they will be available later, especially at this price.

 

The complete clutch assembly is 1332834 I would have to special order that item, clutch plate pack which would be steel & frictions is 2202434, these I carry in stock. If anyone is interested DM me and I can work up pricing.

 

You must be the only shop to carry the steel/friction plates without the basket and everything else. I might have bought those if I knew they were available. Are you sure they aren't the Barnett kit?

 

Thank you for doing all you can to help out your Victory family @NHKingpin

 

The new Powersportswarehouse website is most certainly odd now. Some prices are ‘normal’ and some are well above full msrp at VictoryMotorcycles.com.

@NHKingpin is never confusing or fubared. It’s always a very pleasant transaction.

 

Yeah, their website is unusable on my computer browsers. It worked before then they did something that ruined it.

 

Seems Barnett or stock is the choice these days for our bikes. Alto is no longer making clutches for Victory. Too bad as I like that company. I did run into this company and wondering if anyone has had experience using these. View attachment 654048

OEM is a known excellent clutch. Even Rylan says he regularly sees 100K+ miles on an OEM Victory clutch.

The only problem with the OEM clutch is the factory detent spring. It wasn't made tough enough and it looses it's pressure resistance after time. My shifting problem started luckily and the mid to late fall of the year and I checked all these forums I research everywhere I could to try to figure out what the problem was and nobody knew what time and it was pretty much after I bought the school up the Barnett scorpion clutch and all them shifting mechanisms as when I figured it out when you couldn't buy the detent spring through any victory dealer anything it was discontinued that that was the problem from the start. It's been about 4 to 5 years now since I did all that work and twice in that time frame it started having shifting problems again so once again had to pull the primary cover off and is turned out being that the shift star bolt as loosened up and that's fixed it again last year and I put the red lock tight to it not the blue like I had been doing but besides that that's the only problem I've ever had on my 2006 Victory Vegas jackpot with close to 50,000 miles on it.
I spent a whole season trying to figure out why my 2006 Victory Vegas jackpot would lock up in 5th 6th gear ended up buying a replaced everything I put a Barnett scorpion clutch in it I replaced all the mechanisms for shifting right there the shift star the bottom replaced it all and at the time you couldn't even get the factory detent spring had to get it through different company and that little Detent Spring with shipping cost me over a $100

 

You might be talking about these guys. http://factorypro.com/Prod_Pages/prodVictory.html Website is dead. I think it was a good product. My Magnum had very little mileage and so i went through the shifter linkage binding at first and some very questionable shifting....jumping out gear around 1 or 2 sometimes. All things factory pro and their roller/spring promised to solve. Well in time my problem was solved after breaking in the drive train. My first year was around 10k and i think most of these shift issues are gone. With Spectro shifting is smooth enough and I have no complaints. No jumps out of gear and part of that is breaking old habits imo. I never applied hot head tactics on the shifter like some have. I have also gone back to 4000 mile oil changes.

What polaris did? they tightened up the slop ( side to side ) on the shifter shaft so the oil plug crush washer is no longer needed. I think this would solve anyone's issue...with a new spring too.

 

Then explain bikes like my CCT and many others. 100K+ miles on an OEM clutch in a bike with cams etc with significantly higher Hp and Trq numbers than stock..

Does real world experience say the OEM clutch needs help on a stock Victory or one with intake, exhaust, tuning and engine work? No. But theoretical bench racing and Internet forums often make those claims. As well as people using the wrong oil or who have an improperly adjusted clutch.

Rylan Vos told me this years ago regarding my CCT. OEM is perfectly fine in my heavy CCT with the go faster parts he installed.

If you’re running the old 116” kit or the, IMHO the better and vastly improved 117” kit: then absolutely 100%, you need to upgrade the clutch. Again, Rylan told me that the day he installed go faster parts and dyno tuned my CCT. He recently released a video regarding this and his new and improved clutch for big bore bikes.

Otherwise? No, OEM works fine. My personal example is one of many, it’s not one of a small number. If the OEM clutch is fine on a heavy CCT, it’s even better on a CC, a CR or a Steel frame Victory.

Ride more, worry less.

Pro Tip: contact @NHKingpin for your Victory parts. You’ll be glad you did.

 

My bike is one of those with 97,000 miles and over 94,000 with cams and tune! Clutch is still fine for now. I did contact NH for pricing on clutch plates and gasket. I'll have to wait until July or August to pull the trigger on that expense. Glad I almost never have to fix anything on this bike, because the clutch pack is pricey. IMHO.
When I had Rylan install my cams and tune 12 years ago, I really felt a big bore kit was in my near future. Rylan's comment "I'll tell you Barry, with the cams and tune done, most will never install a big bore" . He was right, would I like more power, Sure, do I need it, no. This Cross Roads is pretty darn QUICK! And I ride with some fast company!

 

So true. I have nothing but respect and admiration for Rylan Vos. He’s as honest, knowledgeable and willing to share his accumulated knowledge as can be.

Sure, I’d like a 117” kit on both my bikes. But I don’t make or have ‘FU’ money. Therefore I simply can’t justify the total cost of a 117” build. Let alone two of them.

I had thoughts of removing the PCV and the Lloyds timing wheel installed on my CCT. I just can’t justify the $800+ cost of a Maximus tune replacement on the bike. if the PCV goes bust, ok. But just to do it, nope.

If I ever hit a lottery jackpot, you’ll know. Because both bikes will go to The Vic Shop for a 117” build.

 

What year did that new shifter shaft get updated and included in the production?
Are the Factory Pro parts still available?

 

It was in the winter.....it was either 2019 or 20. Officially....the part number changed in all the fishes.

Dont know them but it appears that the website is working again. Let us know how it goes.

 

Oh so that would be something I could upgrade this Spring then. I have seen some oddities at time with shifting.... Like staying in the same gear when shifting or hitting neutral first to 2nd ... Both at 5500 rpm shift changes. Are the shift kits from factory pro still available?

 

I bought a new polaris spring and shifter so if I ever go in those will get replaced. Welp 5500 rpm anything can happen. Something else can happen at 3000 but im not saying it in public. IDKS 🙊

 

What can happen at 3000?

 

Thanks to the very courteous help from @NHKingpin, my OEM clutch parts, plus a couple other items, are inbound to me. I’ll need to make room on my ever expanding ‘Parts Shelf’. I call it a parts shelf but in reality, Victory parts are taking over my office. And also some of the attic as well. From a storage space standpoint, just buying another used Victory would be vastly more efficient.

Thank you Ed!

 

buying another used Victory would be vastly more efficient.

That’s a great idea, being insured & all, ur calling really is in sales, you’re convincing me anyway haha

 

Just an FYI ... I sent an email to Claudia at Alto and she got back to me in less than five minutes. Their clutch kits should be back in stock by end of May. #095758K-59. So they may very well still be an option.

 

Not in need of a clutch at the moment but I've had such good luck with them I may buy one to put on the shelf if/when they're back in stock.
You mention Claudia's prompt response, that's one of the biggest reasons I liked them over the years was their customer service.

 

Does the OEM clutch pack come from Japan? I know they’re more expensive but a 100K+ from an OEM clutch, to me, is worth the extra money.

Especially after watching Rylan’s clutch video recently were he really downplays the aftermarket Barnett clutch.

 

I'm pretty sure I've said this before but..............
Barnett made their reputation back when H-D was using a dry clutch in both the big twins and the Sportsters if they got the least bit oil soaked the big twins would slip and the Sportsters would drag you through an intersection if you were stopped in gear.
They were the only alternative to stock and tolerated some oil on them. It wasn't till mid '84 that H-D went to a wet clutch and diaphragm spring Sportster made the change in '71 'cause they were much worse clutch wise than the big twin.
Long lengthy history of big twin primary that Ill leave for another day.
Anyway I worked for different dealerships and independents and along in the mid to late '90's Barnett started getting a bit sloppy with quality control, by the early '00's quality control and customer service both took a dump.
Another mechanic turned me on to Alto around that time. See ya Barnett.
Was able to convert to Victory in 2018 and the '06 KP I bought had a "creeper" clutch because of the oil the PO had been using and was very happy to discover (on this forum) that Alto had a drop in Pack for Vics as well.
Well, that's enough geezer trivia for today.
Ride fast and take chances!

 

Claudia

She sounds hot

Long lengthy history of big twin primary that Ill leave for another day.

We’ll hold you to it Norm, this is the crowd for that

 

She sounds hot

I dated a girl in college named Claudia. Woof. In a good way. Probably not the same one as from Alto. Mine was 45+ years ago. Just thought you might want to know. If not, you do now.