Seems Barnett or stock is the choice these days for our bikes. Alto is no longer making clutches for Victory. Too bad as I like that company. I did run into this company and wondering if anyone has had experience using these.
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Not in need of a clutch at the moment but I've had such good luck with them I may buy one to put on the shelf if/when they're back in stock.
You mention Claudia's prompt response, that's one of the biggest reasons I liked them over the years was their customer service.
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Yeah, when I first sent an email to them last fall to see what was going on, same thing. She replied within an hour I think. I really don't need one yet either, although the Pin feels like it could use one. I've got too many other projects going on to do any work on either bikes but like you said it wouldn't hurt to keep one on the shelf. It can keep my throttle body adapter and belt company.
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I was wondering what the odd noise coming from a cabinet in the shop the other day.
Turns out some of my "stash" parts were lonely and grumbling so I guess I'll have to buy a clutch pack just to shut them up.
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Does the OEM clutch pack come from Japan? I know they’re more expensive but a 100K+ from an OEM clutch, to me, is worth the extra money.
Especially after watching Rylan’s clutch video recently were he really downplays the aftermarket Barnett clutch.
Especially after watching Rylan’s clutch video recently were he really downplays the aftermarket Barnett clutch.
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I'm pretty sure I've said this before but..............
Barnett made their reputation back when H-D was using a dry clutch in both the big twins and the Sportsters if they got the least bit oil soaked the big twins would slip and the Sportsters would drag you through an intersection if you were stopped in gear.
They were the only alternative to stock and tolerated some oil on them. It wasn't till mid '84 that H-D went to a wet clutch and diaphragm spring Sportster made the change in '71 'cause they were much worse clutch wise than the big twin.
Long lengthy history of big twin primary that Ill leave for another day.
Anyway I worked for different dealerships and independents and along in the mid to late '90's Barnett started getting a bit sloppy with quality control, by the early '00's quality control and customer service both took a dump.
Another mechanic turned me on to Alto around that time. See ya Barnett.
Was able to convert to Victory in 2018 and the '06 KP I bought had a "creeper" clutch because of the oil the PO had been using and was very happy to discover (on this forum) that Alto had a drop in Pack for Vics as well.
Well, that's enough geezer trivia for today.
Ride fast and take chances!
Barnett made their reputation back when H-D was using a dry clutch in both the big twins and the Sportsters if they got the least bit oil soaked the big twins would slip and the Sportsters would drag you through an intersection if you were stopped in gear.
They were the only alternative to stock and tolerated some oil on them. It wasn't till mid '84 that H-D went to a wet clutch and diaphragm spring Sportster made the change in '71 'cause they were much worse clutch wise than the big twin.
Long lengthy history of big twin primary that Ill leave for another day.
Anyway I worked for different dealerships and independents and along in the mid to late '90's Barnett started getting a bit sloppy with quality control, by the early '00's quality control and customer service both took a dump.
Another mechanic turned me on to Alto around that time. See ya Barnett.
Was able to convert to Victory in 2018 and the '06 KP I bought had a "creeper" clutch because of the oil the PO had been using and was very happy to discover (on this forum) that Alto had a drop in Pack for Vics as well.
Well, that's enough geezer trivia for today.
Ride fast and take chances!
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She sounds hot
We’ll hold you to it Norm, this is the crowd for that
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I dated a girl in college named Claudia. Woof. In a good way. Probably not the same one as from Alto. Mine was 45+ years ago. Just thought you might want to know. If not, you do now.
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Sweet! I may get one for the shelf. I only have 30k but you know... Parts are getting expensive and harder to come by.
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Used to eliminate the judder on Sportsters using one extra steel and one fiber. Did this to my first Vic a 2006 KP.
Makes the clutch a bit more touchy and may add a bit of vibration idling with the clutch lever pulled in.
Barnett even offers an "Extra clutch plate kit".
Also have re-used the judder on 3 Vics doing a clutch replacement. Worked out ok.
Makes the clutch a bit more touchy and may add a bit of vibration idling with the clutch lever pulled in.
Barnett even offers an "Extra clutch plate kit".
Also have re-used the judder on 3 Vics doing a clutch replacement. Worked out ok.
I emailed Alto to see if they had their Aramid friction and steel plate kit back in stock and if they sell directly to the public. Here is the response. I had to remove the hyperlinks since this is my first post.
Thank you for your inquiry.
We should have the 095758K-59 available by early September.
For low volume orders, we would sell directly through our webstore at www_altoproducts_com which includes free shipping within the US for orders above $100.
In case you have any questions, feel free to reach out.
Regards,
Paulo Hoyer
Alto Products Corp.
Sales Representative
1 Alto Way · Atmore · AL · 36502
Thank you for your inquiry.
We should have the 095758K-59 available by early September.
For low volume orders, we would sell directly through our webstore at www_altoproducts_com which includes free shipping within the US for orders above $100.
In case you have any questions, feel free to reach out.
Regards,
Paulo Hoyer
Alto Products Corp.
Sales Representative
1 Alto Way · Atmore · AL · 36502
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Unless you're putting out way more HP and TQ. than stock or even with cams.
I've had very good luck with the Red Eagle clutch. Why Aramid?
Unless you're putting out way more HP and TQ. than stock or even with cams.
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Many Victory owners, with or without the usual go faster stuff, go well over 125K miles on the oem clutch.
Many Victory owners, with improper clutch adjustment and/or the wrong oil and/or poor riding habits replace their oem clutch prematurely due to glazing/slipping.
Is Alto good? Yes, some on here I trust say so.
Me? OEM all the way.
Rylan? OEM all the way.
I haven't decided to go with Aramid. I just purchased a 2013 Cross Country Tour with 30,000 miles from the original owner. Andrews cams, Lloydz filter and a Maximus tune for 108 hp and torque. I've noticed the grabby / surging clutch when I ride alone at 280 pounds. Much more pronounced when I have a passenger. PO putna skid plate on the bike and I have no idea how much weight that adds.
My previous bike exhibited the same symptoms when the clutch diaphragm washer / spring wore out. Right now I am researching options, but if I go deep enough to replace my CCT's pressure plate and diaphragm, I might as well prepare for new clutch fibers and plates.
I've enjoyed the many posts about Victory clutches here. The general vibe is high on info and low on ego!
I might start a fresh thread to ask about typical rider / passenger weight for those who had short clutch lives.
My CCT has always run Victory oil and I don't intend to change that. The world doesn't need another oil thread, anyway.
I watched many Rylan videos before purchasing my Victory. His opinion carries a lot of weight for me and it's why I won't stray from Victory oil.
I typically spend way too much time researching options before I go with the safest bet. OEM clutches are undoubtedly the safest bet right now, but I'm struggling with the huge price difference. I will probably end up OEM.
But I am tempted to be a guinea pig for the Altos in Aramid or regular.
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I've used Alto in Harley's and two of my own Vics and a third in a guys Vic that thought adding STP to his oil was a good idea.
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Well, I'm no lightweight. My oem 2012 CCT clutch has over 101K miles on it. It's working perfectly. My CCT was dyno tuned by Rylan Vos after he installed Lloyds DR (501) cams at 113Hp and 114Trq at about 11K miles.
The Victory clutch adjustment needs more freeplay than most owners realize. There's a clutch adjustment video from Mike at the old Victory AZ Police Bikes that, to me, is THE WAY to properly adjust a Victory 106 clutch.
Of course the oil thats been used in the bike as well as the riders riding habits all play a major role in clutch life. My point is, if my oem clutch is in excellent at over 101K miles, another rider should be able to experience the same, or better clutch life.
Other Victory owners have gone north of 130K miles on their oem Victory clutch. So, as far as I'm concerned, I don't need to worry about my 2012 OEM clutch for a while yet.
I have a new oem clutch assembly on my Parts Shelf. So, when the time comes to replace my clutch, I'll have what I need.
The Victory clutch adjustment needs more freeplay than most owners realize. There's a clutch adjustment video from Mike at the old Victory AZ Police Bikes that, to me, is THE WAY to properly adjust a Victory 106 clutch.
Of course the oil thats been used in the bike as well as the riders riding habits all play a major role in clutch life. My point is, if my oem clutch is in excellent at over 101K miles, another rider should be able to experience the same, or better clutch life.
Other Victory owners have gone north of 130K miles on their oem Victory clutch. So, as far as I'm concerned, I don't need to worry about my 2012 OEM clutch for a while yet.
I have a new oem clutch assembly on my Parts Shelf. So, when the time comes to replace my clutch, I'll have what I need.
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