[Bullet]

DSJR do you know if there's any plans for the Digital Wrench to be released to the public? Is there a date that we could be waiting for were licensing wouldn't be renewed and we would have access? My bike is old enough that none of this is an issue. I can do all I have to with my service manual and a multimeter lol. Is it that the Digital Wrench is needed to make adjustments? I can only see that required for TPS, the rest should just be information on what the sensors are doing, just like an ordinary scan tool. I see the interface cables and software (without serial number) are available online. Wondering if I can get into things with my laptop if I purchase this hardware. Probably have to get licensing and that's where being a stealership comes in. You seem to be pretty deep in this Victory world and was I just curious if you know anything or could find out for us.

 

[sweet_cheeks]

I bought my XC in 2010. My riding buddy bought his harley 8 months earlier. He's able to get a personalized ring, etc. to make his purchase a little more personal and "custom". I think Ma Vic needs to come up with something to make them special and unique. Do a ring, watch, custom plate, etc. to those that order or want to purchase to set them and their purchase apart from just writing a cheque out and leaving. I would spring a couple hundred bucks to get something like i suggested. Even a personal patch or something!!!!!!!! Make us proud to ride the best bikes built!!!

 

[Trekwolf164]

I bought my XC in 2010. My riding buddy bought his harley 8 months earlier. He's able to get a personalized ring, etc. to make his purchase a little more personal and "custom". I think Ma Vic needs to come up with something to make them special and unique. Do a ring, watch, custom plate, etc. to those that order or want to purchase to set them and their purchase apart from just writing a cheque out and leaving. I would spring a couple hundred bucks to get something like i suggested. Even a personal patch or something!!!!!!!! Make us proud to ride the best bikes built!!!

My welcome from the VRA included a chrome Victory Owner pin that was 2011

 

[OneThumb]

I bought my XC in 2010. My riding buddy bought his harley 8 months earlier. He's able to get a personalized ring, etc. to make his purchase a little more personal and "custom". I think Ma Vic needs to come up with something to make them special and unique. Do a ring, watch, custom plate, etc. to those that order or want to purchase to set them and their purchase apart from just writing a cheque out and leaving. I would spring a couple hundred bucks to get something like i suggested. Even a personal patch or something!!!!!!!! Make us proud to ride the best bikes built!!!

Good to see you're enjoying your ride. OT

 

[rosskp]

The rep wont do you any good and neither will going to court. Your problem seems to be with an out of business dealer and you cant get blood out of a turnip. Also, you should already have the high flow air kit on the bike, it was part of the stage 1 setup. Did they not put that in either?

Nope they just changed the baffles, as far as the dealer going out of business, your telling me the same thing that the vic dealer that's here told me, but i do have an itemized contract showing the stage one upgrade. I have been told that "you can't get blood out of a turnip" by going to court, well I can tell you that I have twice, once with Yamaha, and once with Honda. in both cases I filed a small claims suit against both and received checks from both before we went to court. I for one am not going to just lie down and let vic get away with this c#@p, it's thier dealers, picked by them, thier products, therefore thier responsibility! we'll see what happens, thanks for the reply

 

[Traveler]

I'd like to find out what causes my 2011 Vison Tour to stall while riding it at lower speeds. It happened a few times within the first 10,000 miles, then was okay for 18,000 miles, then it stalled again today while riding at about 20 MPH in a straight line with the clutch pulled in. (Right after I had made a fairly sharp left turn) All the previous stalls happened while turning. As I stated, the clutch was pulled in when it stalled today, so there is no way I was lugging the motor. My dealer has stated that it has happened to him too.

First of all, I am not a motorcycle mechanic by any stretch of the imagination. Typing that, in a car this problem sounds exactly like a clogged fuel filter. Your bike's newer so that doesn't seem likely, but you might have got some bad gas somewhere. Traveler

 

[rosskp]

There's a lot more going on here than shirts. I personally don't even have any Victory clothing of any sort, it's way to overpriced for what it is and if I'm advertising anything it'll be for my own company lol! You guys are right, nobody listens and in the end nobody cares, but if Ma Vic did listen up some of these suggestions are from people who have riden many, many miles and have a legitimate idea on how to improve the product at hand. The tech issue seems a little odd to me. Why is it so hard to find people that know this stuff? Why do the techs have to be factory trained? If you got into this trade you should be somewhat mechanically inclined. If you can build a motor you can fix a bike. Piston goes up, piston goes down. Not rocket science you just need to know where to get the information required such as torque specs, measurements, etc. Computer diagnostics and trouble shooting are no different. CTS,TPS,MAP,02 etc all work the same on a bike as they do in a car. These bikes are not difficult to figure out. A transmission is simply gears and synchro's. There's a million auto repair shops around because people figured out years ago that the dealer isn't it. There's also bike shops around, granted not as many, but stop whining about the dealer and take it to someone who knows their $hit and cares. Those who care are easy to find. They're the ones who take the time to figure out what they don't know and learn more every day. I've never worked at a dealership and after 27 years in this trade I've proven to be far more valuable an asset to my workplace than the single minded dealer trained techs I work with.

Your right these bikes are not that difficult, what makes it difficult is the software they use that none of the shops can adjust, clear codes, etc. Yes I could spend more money to get a power commander, but why should I???? The vic dealer is telling me that I need and "authorization code" that was supposed to be with the upgrade.....NOT

I would suggest you put this post on Victory's Facebook page they seem very helpful when things like this get posted there. Good luck

 

[bikerdeano]

I guess I should consider myself Lucky... when it comes to the Victory Dealership nearest me. A few days ago, I was told that Elk Island Sales, in Alberta Canada, is the oldest Victory Motorcycle Dealership in all of Canada. When you walk into their Showroom, they have tons of Victory Motorbikes, T-Shirts, Jackets, Helmets, Hats, Rain-Gear and tons of Bike Accessories for all the Victorys, too. Anything I wanted to add to our Bikes, they had it on the Shelf, ready to install. I think I'm fortunate to have these guys so close to me. Even in my travels around Alberta, looking through other Victory Dealerships, none compare to what Elk Island Sales has for stock. The people there at Elk Island Sales are great and easy to get along with. Mark and Don and the owner Trent, are a class act. Question, how will we ever know if Victory Reps are reading through this thread?

 

[Traveler]

First of all, I love my Hammer. The bike runs great, looks great, and has been reliable for the two years I've owned it. The Vic parts are off the handle price wise and has driven most of us to aftermarket stuff. I would rather buy Vic parts, but when they are three to four times more expensive it just doesn't make sense. Victory could market their motorcycle line toward average Americans and sell more bikes and parts. Made by hard working Americans for hard working Americans. Fly the flag, put a small flag on the bikes, not a sticker though. Most Americans want to buy American products, but when the companies price their products too high, hard working Americans look elsewhere. More paint choices and a higher quality paint job please. Less plastic..... Each dealership should have their name of the T Shirts, hats and stuff. My Tucson dealer only has Victory swag, nothing with Victory of Tucson. You put your name on it and it shows a point of pride. Don't use any Hollywood types to sell the bikes. The old Sarge is a great choice. Let Harley put rich wussy Hollywood types who never worked with their hands on their advertising, not an American company named Victory.

 

[OneThumb]

I guess I should consider myself Lucky... when it comes to the Victory Dealership nearest me. Question, how will we ever know if Victory Reps are reading through this thread?

We don't know, but some of them are here, they are the Silent Ones.

 

[Sutherland]

Originally posted by: bikerdeano I guess I should consider myself Lucky... when it comes to the Victory Dealership nearest me. Question, how will we ever know if Victory Reps are reading through this thread?

We don't know, but some of them are here, they are the Silent Ones.

Not sure about "the Silent Ones) But it appears that someone from Mothership watches Facebook, I posted a picture of my KP on a site they are having a contest, In protest (Not opened to Canadians) Within 5 Min's I had a reply my protest was noted, and my concern would be passed on up the ladder Regards

 

[bored76]

Originally posted by: bikerdeano I guess I should consider myself Lucky... when it comes to the Victory Dealership nearest me. Question, how will we ever know if Victory Reps are reading through this thread? Not sure about "the Silent Ones) But it appears that someone from Mothership watches Facebook, I posted a picture of my KP on a site they are having a contest, In protest (Not opened to Canadians) Within 5 Min's I had a reply my protest was noted, and my concern would be passed on up the ladder Regards

Same guy is here. Media relations specialist that has helped me out on one problem I had with out of country Warranty.

 

[dsjr]

Nope they just changed the baffles, as far as the dealer going out of business, your telling me the same thing that the vic dealer that's here told me, but i do have an itemized contract showing the stage one upgrade. I have been told that "you can't get blood out of a turnip" by going to court, well I can tell you that I have twice, once with Yamaha, and once with Honda. in both cases I filed a small claims suit against both and received checks from both before we went to court. I for one am not going to just lie down and let vic get away with this c#@p, it's thier dealers, picked by them, thier products, therefore thier responsibility! we'll see what happens, thanks for the reply

and we wonder why we are in trouble?

 

[kden]

The only real thing I want to see, which has already been briefly mentioned, is a bigger community feel with a magazine and whatnot. My brother in law is a HOG member and he gets so stoked for his big magazine to come in the mail each month or so. For the first year I was a Victory owner I got the magazine they sent out every 3 months, and while I was excited to get it, I was also always a little disappointed with the lack of content inside. They'd have a few member stories, a couple stories about people making custom bikes, a dealership spotlight of some sort, and that was about it. The HOG magazine is always loaded with content. I guess I don't have any specific content requests off the top of my head, but I feel pretty confident Victory has become a big enough brand that they could come out with a monthly, or even bi-monthly magazine with more to offer than Victory Rider currently does. Hell, i'd even pay a small monthly fee to remain a member of that. It's fun to get that magazine in the mail and feel like a part of the community. My .02

 

[Trekwolf164]

The only real thing I want to see, which has already been briefly mentioned, is a bigger community feel with a magazine and whatnot. My brother in law is a HOG member and he gets so stoked for his big magazine to come in the mail each month or so. For the first year I was a Victory owner I got the magazine they sent out every 3 months, and while I was excited to get it, I was also always a little disappointed with the lack of content inside. They'd have a few member stories, a couple stories about people making custom bikes, a dealership spotlight of some sort, and that was about it. The HOG magazine is always loaded with content. I guess I don't have any specific content requests off the top of my head, but I feel pretty confident Victory has become a big enough brand that they could come out with a monthly, or even bi-monthly magazine with more to offer than Victory Rider currently does. Hell, i'd even pay a small monthly fee to remain a member of that. It's fun to get that magazine in the mail and feel like a part of the community. My .02

Thanks now you hurt my feelings our community of Voggers is not enough for you

 

[Bigfoot]

In my case, the lack of VRA membership info as well as hard-copy proof of warranty coverage

Your dealer can print out you warranty and your extended warranty. I asked for it and within 5 minutes I had a hard copy in my hand.

 

[alexandede]

The only real thing I want to see, which has already been briefly mentioned, is a bigger community feel with a magazine and whatnot.

It really is a testament to the marketing genius Harley employed that they got so many people hooked on this "community" aspect of the product. I think TrekWolf was kidding a little bit, but I totally agree with his statement. Because what you are saying kden, is that you would like to have a monthly magazine show up that you don't even care necessarily the content that is in it, rather than having a real group of people here on theVOG who can help you, and share with you. I guess my point is you should check your definition of community. It's almost like you don't even realize you have the "community" already. And the Harley marketing people have successfully brainwashed you into thinking that getting a magazine, or a pin, or a patch is more important than that. Honestly, do you want a Fruit of the Loom magazine to make you feel like part of your underwear community. Or maybe if Starbucks gave you a magazine you'd drink their coffee. If that's all it takes to make you feel like you belong then I'd just be happy you don't accidentally get the monthly magazine from "Bedwetters Anonymous". Obviously I make jokes... but you get my point (hopefully). Don't be controlled by the marketing... use your own head to determine what community means.

 

[clif02]

In the long and short of it I am just happy to own a solid, comfortable, powerful, cool looking and easy to maintain motorcycle that is tough as nails, my Cross Country. The other great benefit is being a member of the VOG, so thank you Andy and all the members that make this such a great place. Ride safe.

 

[fire4606]

I think when the demo trucks visit dealers they should have a second truck full of accessories and gear. I understand how expensive it can be for dealers to stock large quantities, but this way existing owners would have incentive to come to the event (and bring friends hint hint) the sale could be run through the dealership which could be instantly invoiced by the truck for the inventory. Or even simpler the truck could run a report of items sold and the dealer would get a margin credit.

PLEASE DO THAT.......

 

[BLININGER]

I think when the demo trucks visit dealers they should have a second truck full of accessories and gear. I understand how expensive it can be for dealers to stock large quantities, but this way existing owners would have incentive to come to the event (and bring friends hint hint) the sale could be run through the dealership which could be instantly invoiced by the truck for the inventory. Or even simpler the truck could run a report of items sold and the dealer would get a margin credit.

I know I'm going to be repeating a lot of what has already been said but I figure if a rep is reading this they want to know how many people share the same wants. So first of the above quoted section is brilliant! Thanks iabob. Then paint options, yes please more. 2 choices for one model just sucks. Should be at least 4 per model. One thing I don't think I saw mentioned anywhere else is more rim options. I would have loved a set of chromed or polished rims for my Hammer but I had to look backwards in years for it to be an option. My final request is kinda limited. The Hammer is the "Muscle" cruiser. Where's the muscle? Bore the engine out or something else like that to give it more HP than the rest and make that title mean something.