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As for the tranny, got nothing, but I can cure your cutting out issue 85% sure and won't cost you dime other than to RTFM and has worked every time if you are interested, I have yet to find a dealer that knew...
Hi Flyboy, maybe I missed something in the manual?

Let me know something to try and I'll see how it goes.
 
Before I bought my Vic, I did a lot of reading on this forum looking for potential problems the bike has. I came across this thread and began to worry about the transmission, and, if I should look at another bike. Then I noticed that it was the same, tiny number, of members that were complaining about the transmission. The overwhelming majority of members did not experience any malfunctions with their tranny. Because of that, I was not worried about buying my Vic because of the transmission. I did three test rides before I bought mine, I knew what it sounded like. If you don't like the "clunk", don't buy it.

The comments on shifting style are valid. This is not my old GL 1200 'Wing! I have learned to shift at higher RPM's than I did my 'Wing. As I have adjusted to the characteristics of the bike, shifting is not as loud, but still louder than other bikes. As someone posted earlier, I am growing fond of the clunk, and I am confident that my tranny is strong and will last a long time.
 
Helped my buddy change the oil in his Harley (Well I drank a beer or two and watched any way). When we (he) got done he fired it up and put it in first. Clunk was "familiar". My experience has been (over 40 yrs worth) every bike made/makes racket going into first. Little bikes make little clinks and big bikes make clunks. Never had a tranny fail just the same. "Could" happen I'm sure but I can't believe it has anything to do with clinks and clunks. Just my 2cents.....
 
Helped my buddy change the oil in his Harley (Well I drank a beer or two and watched any way). When we (he) got done he fired it up and put it in first. Clunk was "familiar". My experience has been (over 40 yrs worth) every bike made/makes racket going into first. Little bikes make little clinks and big bikes make clunks. Never had a tranny fail just the same. "Could" happen I'm sure but I can't believe it has anything to do with clinks and clunks. Just my 2cents.....
And to add to that you get the snatching at low speed/revs the Vic have which is often blamed on the gearbox but is nothing of the sort.....it is the geared primary drive that does that.....and changing down a gear and not lugging it like a Harley pretty much eliminates that. That's why you get new people taking one short ride on a Vic and complaining about the gearbox.
I'd rather the strength of the Vic primary over a chain.
 
Hi Flyboy, maybe I missed something in the manual?

Let me know something to try and I'll see how it goes.
Sure Brother, I had the issue as well as several friends. Once the following was completed no more issues. I have put this on site a few times and I believe it is due to shipping, running the tank dry moving em around, battery disconnects and just time before sale.

Please pay attention step 5 & 6 the ECM reset and follow exactly...

Priming the Fuel System

If the motorcycle runs out of fuel, prime the fuel system before attempting to restart the engine.

  1. Fill the fuel tank.
  2. Turn the ignition switch to the ON position.
  3. Move the engine stop/run switch from the STOP position to the RUN position.
  4. Allow the fuel pump to run until it stops (about 3 seconds).
  5. Move the engine stop/run switch to the STOP position.
  6. Wait 10 seconds to allow the engine control module to reset.
  7. Repeat steps 3-6 four to five times.
By the way I am a downshift blipper, no flame-outs since...
 
I had something of a revelation today. You know how some days you're just paying attention to that one particular thing. Well, anyway, I noticed that when I pulled the clutch at precisely the same time I began applying pressure for an upshift, the shift was a lot smoother. These were shifts taking place at between 2800 and 3100 rpm plus or minus. So now I'm practicing to make it a habbit.
 
I had something of a revelation today. You know how some days you're just paying attention to that one particular thing. Well, anyway, I noticed that when I pulled the clutch at precisely the same time I began applying pressure for an upshift, the shift was a lot smoother. These were shifts taking place at between 2800 and 3100 rpm plus or minus. So now I'm practicing to make it a habbit.
Yes that is called a "pre-load" and wonder why one of us hadn't mentioned it. I do it as regular practice and have to readjust when I put steel toe boots on... It allows the gears to start spinning up, I guess. But it does work, and makes those gear changes smooth.
 
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I had something of a revelation today. You know how some days you're just paying attention to that one particular thing. Well, anyway, I noticed that when I pulled the clutch at precisely the same time I began applying pressure for an upshift, the shift was a lot smoother. These were shifts taking place at between 2800 and 3100 rpm plus or minus. So now I'm practicing to make it a habbit.
Tell us when you start changing gears before you wanted to. If it works good'o, but someone tell me why it works?
 
I've read your statement and your question a number of times, but I'm not sure I get your meaning. Can you clarify?
 
Tell us when you start changing gears before you wanted to. If it works good'o, but someone tell me why it works?
Not sure you understand, it is a slight pressure on the shifter before the actual shift and if you google it, we'll get a cup and you will be there a while...

Here is a link to start the quest:

My Motorcycle Shifts Rough Between 1st and 2nd Gear ...
www.ridergroups.com › my-motorcycle-...
Nov 29, 2011 - Rough shifting motorcycle from 1st to 2nd gear ... Next time you are out on a ride try this: pre-load your shifter before shifting in to second gear. What do I mean by preload your shifter?
 
I find it almost impossible to do clutchless gear changes on my CCT, thus a premature gear change by pre loading the lever with one's foot would in my mind all but impossible to do. Thus holding pressure in an upward direction then pulling in the clutch allows it to continue into the gear.... Another thing I have used with this bike is not rolling the throttle all the way back (that is, do not allow the revs to die totally while the clutch is in before changing the gear)......

I am not an "expert" rider but occasionally I can snick it into a gear instead of clunking it into gear, via a combination of these two...... Up and down....
 
Not sure you understand, it is a slight pressure on the shifter before the actual shift and if you google it, we'll get a cup and you will be there a while...

Here is a link to start the quest:

My Motorcycle Shifts Rough Between 1st and 2nd Gear ...
www.ridergroups.com › my-motorcycle-...
Nov 29, 2011 - Rough shifting motorcycle from 1st to 2nd gear ... Next time you are out on a ride try this: pre-load your shifter before shifting in to second gear. What do I mean by preload your shifter?
That's a great article Flyboy.....after reading it I realised that I have used this method as long as I can remember, I kinda assumed that everyone did it.......obviously not. Smooth changing requires a real empathy with your bike.....clutch, throttle, foot. Maybe it is an 'art' that some people just don't 'get'?
Ever done a gear change and you thought 'I nailed that one'?
 
My problem is that my last two bikes, both nomads, have probably made me lazy or complacent. They just snik into gear quietly and efforlessly every time. Or at least 99/100. And, Old-Gramps, it's not a clutchless shift, but a very quick one fluid motion that happens simultaniouslly.
 
Upshift and downshifts are then like butter at the sweet spot..

A teeny bit of pre load on the shifter and she slips in like using a tube of vas...
Well, anyway, I noticed that when I pulled the clutch at precisely the same time I began applying pressure for an upshift, the shift was a lot smoother. These were shifts taking place at between 2800 and 3100 rpm plus or minus. So now I'm p
Yes that is called a "pre-load" and wonder why one of us hadn't mentioned it.
Brothers....

I keep mentioning it but no one has listened?

The last time was two pages ago on this thread!!!

I've shifted this way since I was 8 yo...

:eek:
 
My problem is that my last two bikes, both nomads, have probably made me lazy or complacent. They just snik into gear quietly and efforlessly every time. Or at least 99/100. And, Old-Gramps, it's not a clutchless shift, but a very quick one fluid motion that happens simultaniouslly.
It can be used to clutchless shift as the gear will engage at the sweet rev spot without clutching...

Had a clutch cable snap on my old Mazda many years ago...

Got home doing exactly that.....
 
pre-load your shifter before shifting in to second gear
I am not an "expert" rider but occasionally I can snick it into a gear instead of clunking it into gear, via a combination of these two...... Up and down....
Ever done a gear change and you thought 'I nailed that one'?
Personally, I am willing to spend exactly ZERO time thinking up, learning, and practicing "work-arounds" for the shortcoming of my motorcycle.

How about if you "nail that one" on EVERY shift... because the bike isn't fighting you? Why would you conform to some special technique to avoid a struggle? How about if the bike worked WITH you instead of AGAINST you? Don't you have enough to concentrate on?
 
Personally, I am willing to spend exactly ZERO time thinking up, learning, and practicing "work-arounds" for the shortcoming of my motorcycle.

How about if you "nail that one" on EVERY shift... because the bike isn't fighting you? Why would you conform to some special technique to avoid a struggle? How about if the bike worked WITH you instead of AGAINST you? Don't you have enough to concentrate on?
Its not a work around man.....

It's just an efficient and correct way to shift....

You probably do it without thinking about it...

I call it getting used to you bike...
 
Well, that sound good. But, it is, what it is. Not preference, but a reality. I tend to be more pragmatic than hopeful of perfection. Adapt, overcome, it works in a lot of places in life. That's just me.
 
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