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Definitely a gang banger.No no no that's not how it works......
What is your definition?
They don't fight over turf, it's about being respectful in someone else's house....if I came to your house and was disrespectful to your family members I'm sure you would show me the door.... Correct ?
Old school.....it's men being men.
Interesting....A club, any club, is no longer just a club once a criminal element is added to it.
If the Pagans were involved they most certainly are a gang and not just a MC.
To me a gangbanger is selling drugs at the corner and shooting anybody he disagrees with in broad daylight, A gangbanger is someone who indiscriminately shoots down range & misses his target ....and kills 12 civilians that had nothing to do with his problem.Definitely a gang banger.
Gangbangers never want to admit they're gang bangers. Beating another man because of a patch he wore while riding on some street has nothing to do with respect or your house. The "public" is not your house, I owe no gang any courtesy of bending to their self imposed rules they call respect. That's gang life plain and simple. It's not brotherhood, it's not decency, honor, or being a man. Being those things means doing the exact opposite of what biker gangs, drug gangs, or any other terrorist organization does. An honest decent and honorable man never tries to force someone to bend to his rules and try and call that respect.To me a gangbanger is selling drugs at the corner and shooting anybody he disagrees with in broad daylight, A gangbanger is someone who indiscriminately shoots down range & misses his target ....and kills 12 civilians that had nothing to do with his problem.
But then again I grew up in the hood and that might skew my optics.
I agree that there are bad people in every group. BTW, you forgot clergy.Interesting....
I can find criminal elements and local police, state police, federal police, corrupted politicians, and we could also Add lawyers judges public officials....
No matter where you look we find fault in ourselves certain percentages are deviance in society...police military and even teachers.....still doesn't make the whole group a criminal element.
In the state of Connecticut there are more MC clubs than anywhere else in the United States.....and I can tell you they are very respectful and decent honest people who would give you the shirt off their back if you needed it.....i'm happy to say I call that family!!!
First part of "agreed!I agree that there are bad people in every group. BTW, you forgot clergy.
The difference that makes a group a gang is that the majority of it are involved in the crimes the commit.
Falls under organized crime. No matter if you never put your hands on the crime (whatever that may be). If you do anything that aids the club and present yourself as a member you are part of the whole and therefore a member of a the gang. You could be a look out, security, distraction, or whatever.First part of "agreed!
I think you'd be hard-pressed to prove majority are involved....
So what gang are u in? Oh, I mean "club".Interesting....
I can find criminal elements and local police, state police, federal police, corrupted politicians, and we could also Add lawyers judges public officials....
No matter where you look we find fault in ourselves certain percentages are deviance in society...police military and even teachers.....still doesn't make the whole group a criminal element.
In the state of Connecticut there are more MC clubs than anywhere else in the United States.....and I can tell you they are very respectful and decent honest people who would give you the shirt off their back if you needed it.....i'm happy to say I call that family!!!
That wasn't the result of your chili cooking was it?No ****. That's what I was thinking. I've done more damage with my bowel movements.
Yep the biggest street gang in the United States with 3/4 of a million members... Just ask Hillary.On the street I always get a few laughs from the bangers when I tell them I'm in the "5-0 Crips."
The only vest I have ever worn is a safety vest for building bridges....So what gang are u in? Oh, I mean "club".
I'm not going to debate our views...Not being a troll just trying to set the record straight.
You want to Pin all MC as being a criminal enterprise.....but you were expecting the rest of us to gloss over the reality.
There is always going to be no matter where you look a few bad apples . It's because all organizations are made up of society....just trying to show statistical probability will surface and all organizations,
I am not trying to demean or impugn anyone, yet
90-plus arrests of D.C. cops in under 4 years
70 members of rival motorcycle clubs brawl on Long Island at car showA club, any club, is no longer just a club once a criminal element is added to it.
If the Pagans were involved they most certainly are a gang and not just a MC.