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Breathe, dude. And just remember, YOU RIDE A VICTORY!!

 

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I checked and couldn't find anything on the web related to and Indian oil pump issue. Have I failed in my search, or is this some new revelation? What is the story? Lifter issues, large push rod tollerances, or ??

 

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OK, thanks, nice read. I spotted another potential issue. The POG! This was a huge issue on Kawasaki 1500 Vulcan engines in 1999. In 2000 they replaced the Plastic Oil Gear with a metal one and never had another problem. The POG's were failing at a steady rate and would almost certainly fail eventually.

I don't think so.....If oiling is in any way questionalble, then I'm out.....Never to return.

 

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Valve train designs two different worlds.

 

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Yeeaahhh.........NO.

 

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Rode to work and back, today. Nice weather, bike performed beautifully. Not talking me out of it.

 

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And it didn't cost me $30,000.00!

 

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Since I care nothing about nostalgia or the Indian style as a personal taste, and won't be getting one, it doesn't matter to me. But, I do hope that this is not an opportunity for a lot of Indian owners to get hosed. There are some very good companies out there that will stand behind the product. I can't say Polaris is one. I just don't like bikers having unnecessary issues with their rides.. Most are passionate about the sport, and it's too expensive an item not to have it right.

A lot of things get said about the Japanese bikes, but for the most part, they are built to be top quality. Wouldn't hurt to see that in all manufacturers.

One thing that has sort of worked it's way to the surface as I've read the years worth of threads dealing with Polaris' stuff, is that, Some how the parts being purchased to use in these bikes aren't getting enough attention for quality control. Seems the failures have mostly been related to poor quality parts finding their way onto the bikes.

 

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I have been reading here and on the Harley forums and there seem to be two camps out there. Those who never have any issues with their bikes and those who do (this group seems to have more than one issue in a period of time). Two things stand out. The 'I have had no problems' crowd talks about riding a lot, but I don't hear of trouble free bikes with more than about 50K miles. Ok, for a lot of riders, that's a "lot".

But on the other hand, the 'I've had trouble with my bike crowd', instead of saying things like that make me mad or I hated spending the money, or something else like that......they will say, yeah, but it got fixed fast, or that's the cost of owning this bike, or it wasn't really that bad.......WTF?!

And one guy talking about the oiling issue says, ' well, as long as it was getting some pressure the parts inside the motor should be alright" WhhhhaaaaaaTTTTTTT!!!! Can you say anything stupider than that?

I'm sorry, if it has oiling issues, it's gone!! If I know this ahead of time, it never will happen.

 

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Belts are just ordinary Gates belts and always available. Just about everything is an off the shelf product. I haven't looked yet, but I am sure the filter is an off the shelf product, too. Just gotta do some digging.
The starter sprague....yeah, that's a Vic part. There is a decent salvage parts availability now in eBay.

You might want to rethink that belt situation. I spent a couple of hours searching belts to find a Gates or any other belt makers replacement for the Vic spec belt and came up with nothing. I don't know who supplies Vic, but they don't keep them on the shelf for public consumption.

 

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No, I am sure about the belts. Some guys on here have modded their bikes and used a Harley belt....one from a Buel, I think. Same tooth spacing, etc.
How do you suppose the guys who go with the underdrive pulley, and then need a shorter belt, do it?

You'll have to do more than ask the google for answers.

Well, the time I spent was more than a "google search". I was on several manufacturers sites and went through the entire listing of their belts and there are none speced for these bikes. Also went onto a number of large outlet sites and again, nothing. No cross references found either. Now, you mentioned modifying the bikes. But I'm talking about a direct replacement. I do not wish to modify my bike just to get a belt. And as I recall, on one thread, the question came up "can the original belt still be used for the under drive pulley and the answer came back yes. I do recall mention of a Gates replacement, but no part No. So, you will have to show me. Possible I missed it, but if I did, it was well hidden.

 

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We must be talking about hamburgers vs. caviar. Since when will a 136 tooth belt even come close to substituting for a 154 tooth??......My math might be a little rusty, but.....it ain't that bad. Not to mention the difference from a 14mm to an 18mm pitch. Your vision must have a much shorter swing arm than my CCT. Anyway, my statement still stands. But let me make it easier......show....me....a.....154tooth......18mm pitch......28mm wide belt in the after market.

I keep telling you guys.....drinking and posting never works.

 

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Oh, and just so we're clear.....Kevlar.

 

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J&P Cycles also sells a replacement belt.
Motorcycle Drive Belts | J&P Cycles

See, the underdive pulley has 2 teeth less and the stock belt fits. Keeping the stock pulley, you can have an additional tooth on the belt with no issue.
I am not worried about it.
The drive belt is the LEAST of your worries.

For my CCT......No they don't!

 

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Now, I can think of one possible explanation : I did, in my search notice that the size belts you keep refering to were listed to fit a number of Harley bikes. I think you are still thinking Harley......It's V..I..C..T..O..R..Y.

 

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@53canuck I can appreciate what you are saying, but the issue I see with your argument is that you keep refering to Harley as your example....I don't think it's a good comparison, and this is why.

As I refered to earlier, I've done an extensive search for belts (many makers) and on one site I noticed a particular sized belt and for that belt were listed almost two full pages of Harley models which would use it. And not all of them newer. So, you have a maker who can supply one belt, and it will fit MANY different models from then to now. Easier than one belt for two or three models.

 

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OK, I read part of that wrong. My bad, and I agree!

 

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OK, thank you. That does make more sense to me now. But I thought the discussion was about the Vision and Cross bikes since you ride a vision and I a cross bike. Not really about my bike but all the other types that it represents. There are a lot of them. It would at least be a good thing if the steel frame guys can find belts. I could at least be happy for them. Still doesn't solve our problem

And, yeah, there are more important things too discuss.......until you get a stone and your belt breaks on a trip or something like that. Ain't going no where till it's replaced. All the filter's , spark plugs, regulators (that one at least has a valid substitute), and whatever else you can name will NOT help. I guess if one was to make a point, it should be that some parts are important, but some are vital. The vital ones will keep you stuck right where you are when then go, and there's no substitute available. Belt, fuel pump, are the two that come to mind, not considering any internal engine or transmission parts.

 

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Yeah, go figure. Harley belts out the a$$, and impossible to change. Not a Vic belt in sight, but you can sure change it easy. Sometimes, I think they do this kind of stuff just for me.

 

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@robsvision I hear you. At 62, I figure this to be my last bike (even if I am riding past 70), so after going back and forth, I've decided to keep this one and make it last. I don't think that will be as hard as it might seem.