[MagVic CCT]

I'll buy it. And since you're in such a hurry to get rid of it, I'll make an offer in that vein. 6000.00, and I'll come get it.

 

[Cotton]

Can you elaborate ! I FOR ONE AM ALWAY INTERESTED IN COMMENTS FROM BOTH DIRECTIONS!
It would be very interesting to know where you found the faults,how your dealer worked with those issues a d what you are left with today !
What are the short comings!
I'm not trying to be an ass here I honestly would like to know!

Let me start by saying that I have 2006 Yamaha Road Star with 137000 miles on it and as it is not without some repairs (stator and lifters) in that time frame, I feel that it is a much more solid bike than this Victory.
The transmission in this bike is the worst sounding piece of (new) equipment that I think I have heard. It sounds like it has gravel in it in several gears. It has way too much slop in the gear drive which is accentuated by the back firing and missing when letting off the throttle to change gears. I have heard that there are maybe some fixes for these problems, but I did not buy a brand new bike to fix problems that should not exist. I have, since I purchased it heard people say that these are just normal conditions for these bikes and this is unacceptable to me. There is also a rubbing noise that I cannot locate coming from maybe the tires or the belt? Not sure. The belt has been adjusted by the dealer and I don't think that's the issue. The starter runs on more than the other bikes in the showroom. The heat coming from the engine and exhaust was very (painfully) intense on a trip to Georgia wearing shorts. I think that leaving the vents closed may alleviate this some. I assumed that opening the vents would cool me, but it doesn't appear to be that way. A touring bike should be comfortable or at least bearable in my opinion. The performance seems a bit lackluster. I understand the EPA restrictions affect this and it's something that I plan to remedy if the dealer can fix the other issues. The speaker performance is less than impressive and I didn't realize there was a speaker jack only in the fairing, no way to hook up phone or music and be able to adjust controls. This is a touring bike and should have that capability. Mine is white and gray and there is line of light that reflects on the windshield right in my field of view which gets worse when using high beams. I would be getting a lower windshield anyway so this is just an observation.
Other than this laundry list it rides and looks nice and I love the floorboards. The cons just outweigh the pros at this point.
It is going to the dealer this weekend to hopefully get these issues worked out, which brings up another problem. Service dept. is backed up and had to order starter parts that took quite a while to get there so with the other issues I expect to get it back next spring with any luck.
Not a happy camper!!!

Can you elaborate ! I FOR ONE AM ALWAY INTERESTED IN COMMENTS FROM BOTH DIRECTIONS!
It would be very interesting to know where you found the faults,how your dealer worked with those issues a d what you are left with today !
What are the short comings!
I'm not trying to be an ass here I honestly would like to know!

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[Cotton]

I'll buy it. And since you're in such a hurry to get rid of it, I'll make an offer in that vein. 6000.00, and I'll come get it.

I'd push it in the lake before I sold it to you at any price!

 

[Steele11b]

If your tranny sounds like you have gravel in it your not shifting in the right RPMs.

 

[2edgesword]

Let me start by saying that I have 2006 Yamaha Road Star with 137000 miles on it and as it is not without some repairs (stator and lifters) in that time frame, I feel that it is a much more solid bike than this Victory.
The transmission in this bike is the worst sounding piece of (new) equipment that I think I have heard. It sounds like it has gravel in it in several gears. It has way too much slop in the gear drive which is accentuated by the back firing and missing when letting off the throttle to change gears. I have heard that there are maybe some fixes for these problems, but I did not buy a brand new bike to fix problems that should not exist. I have, since I purchased it heard people say that these are just normal conditions for these bikes and this is unacceptable to me. There is also a rubbing noise that I cannot locate coming from maybe the tires or the belt? Not sure. The belt has been adjusted by the dealer and I don't think that's the issue. The starter runs on more than the other bikes in the showroom. The heat coming from the engine and exhaust was very (painfully) intense on a trip to Georgia wearing shorts. I think that leaving the vents closed may alleviate this some. I assumed that opening the vents would cool me, but it doesn't appear to be that way. A touring bike should be comfortable or at least bearable in my opinion. The performance seems a bit lackluster. I understand the EPA restrictions affect this and it's something that I plan to remedy if the dealer can fix the other issues. The speaker performance is less than impressive and I didn't realize there was a speaker jack only in the fairing, no way to hook up phone or music and be able to adjust controls. This is a touring bike and should have that capability. Mine is white and gray and there is line of light that reflects on the windshield right in my field of view which gets worse when using high beams. I would be getting a lower windshield anyway so this is just an observation.
Other than this laundry list it rides and looks nice and I love the floorboards. The cons just outweigh the pros at this point.
It is going to the dealer this weekend to hopefully get these issues worked out, which brings up another problem. Service dept. is backed up and had to order starter parts that took quite a while to get there so with the other issues I expect to get it back next spring with any luck.
Not a happy camper!!!

Sorry to hear about your issues with the new CCT. We all know that every manufacturer can have issues and different makes/models have their idiosyncrasies that may take some time to get use to. In my mind a huge factor in my assessment of a company is how they respond when an issue arises, meaning what level of support do you get from the dealer and manufacturer to correct the problem. When an issue comes up on a brand new bike they should be bending over backwards to make it right.

One thing I don't understand is why certain items like starters, stators, regulator, belts, etc. would ever be out of inventory. In this day and age of computerized inventory management I would think that every dealer would have some system set up where these types of items are flag for reorder when inventory drops below a certain level. Yes, it does cost something to keep items in inventory but it also cost something when you tell a customer that it's going to take two weeks to get a replacement starter, belt or regulator and another week or two to get it installed.

We rely on the dealer to proper assembly and thoroughly test every systems and road test the bike so that there is a high level of confidence that the bike delivered to a customer doesn't end up coming back to the shop before the first 500 miles service for some adjustment that should have been made before the bike was delivered. The starter issue may be something that couldn't be detected prior to handing the bike over to you and the transmission slop may be just the nature of the beast. I had owned numerous other bikes (Japanese and European) before riding my first Harley and I though for sure something had broke the first time I shifted from 1st to 2nd but soon found out that the infamous "clunk" is the nature of that beast. The Victory while noisy during shifts compared to the Japanese bikes I've owned was quieter than the Harley.

Anyway, I hope all the issues get resolved to your satisfaction and you get to enjoy 137,000 carefree miles on the CCT.

 

[SPEEDFREAK]

It's because of the CR review and glowing statements on this blog as well as other reviews that I bought a Victory CCT.
I made a mistake! If I could take it back for a refund, I would!
If this is the best bike America can build Harley must be a real POS and I should have bought another Japanese bike!
Just sayin!

is the bike brand new...if it is give it time to get broke in, if it is not I don't know what to tell yah except to sell it and buy what you had.. I love mine except for the stereo but the stereo doesn't mattr much to me...I go on long rides and I am the only biker that doesn't complain of the bumps in the road cuz it soaks them up nicely..

 

[Ghostrider25]

Sorry to hear about your issues with the new CCT...

One thing I don't understand is why certain items like starters, stators, regulator, belts, etc. would ever be out of inventory. In this day and age of computerized inventory management I would think that every dealer would have some system set up where these types of items are flag for reorder when inventory drops below a certain level. Yes, it does cost something to keep items in inventory but it also cost something when you tell a customer that it's going to take two weeks to get a replacement starter, belt or regulator and another week or two to get it installed.

We rely on the dealer to proper assembly and thoroughly test every systems and road test the bike so that there is a high level of confidence that the bike delivered to a customer doesn't end up coming back to the shop before the first 500 miles service for some adjustment that should have been made before the bike was delivered...

... Anyway, I hope all the issues get resolved to your satisfaction and you get to enjoy 137,000 carefree miles on the CCT.

Hard to argue with these points. And this comes back to the dealer aspect of the "Victory experience." I am very fortunate in that I have an excellent dealer that has taken very good care of my bike. It's possible that this bike wasn't set up properly. @Cotton if it's possible, if the selling dealer won't make it right try to seek out another dealer that will do a better job. The CCT has been a very successful machine, and if a qualified guy can dial it in right for you, I bet the experience would be very different.

But if it just isn't doin it for you, look for that next one. You gotta love what you ride, man. Good luck.

 

[Cotton]

If your tranny sounds like you have gravel in it your not shifting in the right RPMs.

I hear it at 65 mph in 6th gear. I can live with (don't like it) some noise. It's mainly the slop I don't like. Hope the dealer can fix it.

 

[Cotton]

Hard to argue with these points. And this comes back to the dealer aspect of the "Victory experience." I am very fortunate in that I have an excellent dealer that has taken very good care of my bike. It's possible that this bike wasn't set up properly. @Cotton if it's possible, if the selling dealer won't make it right try to seek out another dealer that will do a better job. The CCT has been a very successful machine, and if a qualified guy can dial it in right for you, I bet the experience would be very different.

But if it just isn't doin it for you, look for that next one. You gotta love what you ride, man. Good luck.

Thanks. Yeah, it will depend on what dealer can do.

 

[Cotton]

Sorry to hear about your issues with the new CCT. We all know that every manufacturer can have issues and different makes/models have their idiosyncrasies that may take some time to get use to. In my mind a huge factor in my assessment of a company is how they respond when an issue arises, meaning what level of support do you get from the dealer and manufacturer to correct the problem. When an issue comes up on a brand new bike they should be bending over backwards to make it right.

One thing I don't understand is why certain items like starters, stators, regulator, belts, etc. would ever be out of inventory. In this day and age of computerized inventory management I would think that every dealer would have some system set up where these types of items are flag for reorder when inventory drops below a certain level. Yes, it does cost something to keep items in inventory but it also cost something when you tell a customer that it's going to take two weeks to get a replacement starter, belt or regulator and another week or two to get it installed.

We rely on the dealer to proper assembly and thoroughly test every systems and road test the bike so that there is a high level of confidence that the bike delivered to a customer doesn't end up coming back to the shop before the first 500 miles service for some adjustment that should have been made before the bike was delivered. The starter issue may be something that couldn't be detected prior to handing the bike over to you and the transmission slop may be just the nature of the beast. I had owned numerous other bikes (Japanese and European) before riding my first Harley and I though for sure something had broke the first time I shifted from 1st to 2nd but soon found out that the infamous "clunk" is the nature of that beast. The Victory while noisy during shifts compared to the Japanese bikes I've owned was quieter than the Harley.

Anyway, I hope all the issues get resolved to your satisfaction and you get to enjoy 137,000 carefree miles on the CCT.

Thank you.

 

[catwrench59]

I hear it at 65 mph in 6th gear. I can live with (don't like it) some noise. It's mainly the slop I don't like. Hope the dealer can fix it.

Cotton can you give a better description of slop. If it is the shift linkage slop there are tighter bushings through witchdoctor. I have a feeling you are trying to ride the bike the way you have always ridden the Yamaha. I have no experience with the Yamaha. I can tell you that Victories don't like to be short shifted. Keep the Rpm up 3k or better then shift quickly. You don't have to bang the gears but make sharp quick direct movements. When I up shift I roll the throttle back slightly, Pull the clutch in halfway or less while pulling my toe up sharply. I do this at roughly the 10s as per owners manual So up shift to 3rd above 30 etc. Down shift I pull the clutch a bit more but other than that about the same movement. Making down shifts I shift @ about 45 5th to 4th etc. By doing this and I guess kind of matching rpm to speed @ shifts mine have been smooth and quite. I also don't use 6th under about 70 mph.
If the slop you are referring to is the noise of the torque compensator. Some of those seem to be noisier than others but the noise is exasperated by the way you ride. I hope you get things to your liking. Do try to keep in mind that ever machine is a little different. People and riding habits need to be flexible a machine being hard parts isn't very flexible. I'm not at all saying that everything is your fault just trying to help someone new to Victory get a positive experience with understanding some of their individual quirks.
If the starter clutch or drive is what's giving you issues. You are supposed to keep the button down until the bike is running. If you let off and the engine kicks back against the drive there have been drive failures. Just something else to keep in mind. Both Lloyd @ Lloyds Motorworxz and Rylan Voss of the Vic shop have U tube videos on proper start up techniques.

 

[Cotton]

Cotton can you give a better description of slop. If it is the shift linkage slop there are tighter bushings through witchdoctor. I have a feeling you are trying to ride the bike the way you have always ridden the Yamaha. I have no experience with the Yamaha. I can tell you that Victories don't like to be short shifted. Keep the Rpm up 3k or better then shift quickly. You don't have to bang the gears but make sharp quick direct movements. When I up shift I roll the throttle back slightly, Pull the clutch in halfway or less while pulling my toe up sharply. I do this at roughly the 10s as per owners manual So up shift to 3rd above 30 etc. Down shift I pull the clutch a bit more but other than that about the same movement. Making down shifts I shift @ about 45 5th to 4th etc. By doing this and I guess kind of matching rpm to speed @ shifts mine have been smooth and quite. I also don't use 6th under about 70 mph.
If the slop you are referring to is the noise of the torque compensator. Some of those seem to be noisier than others but the noise is exasperated by the way you ride. I hope you get things to your liking. Do try to keep in mind that ever machine is a little different. People and riding habits need to be flexible a machine being hard parts isn't very flexible. I'm not at all saying that everything is your fault just trying to help someone new to Victory get a positive experience with understanding some of their individual quirks.
If the starter clutch or drive is what's giving you issues. You are supposed to keep the button down until the bike is running. If you let off and the engine kicks back against the drive there have been drive failures. Just something else to keep in mind. Both Lloyd @ Lloyds Motorworxz and Rylan Voss of the Vic shop have U tube videos on proper start up techniques.

I believe it is the torque compensator. Some shifts are smooth, but too many are not. It does shift better at higher RPM's, but this is not always the case or the best practice in certain conditions, i.e. in town traffic. I rode another one at the dealer and although it wasn't perfect it was better than mine.
As far as the starter issue you described, these are things that should be corrected at the drawing board and factory. If a motorcycle has problems or unfavorable characteristics they should be corrected! Just my opinion.
Thank you for your input.

 

[catwrench59]

I don't disagree if it is a known problem fix it. I think as far as the starter issue it is somewhat rare and I would suppose when any large displacement engine kicks back against the drive it is a hell of a shock. Without looking I would say that the Owners manual probably states keeping the starter engaged until the engine is running.

 

[poptop]

Well I'm glad you took the time to fill in the blanks, second good to hear many sportive folks reply to your concernes!
I don,t think anyone wants to have to deal with shiit after dropping a bundle on a purchase! Then have to deal with inadiqucies of a dealer with no stock and perhaps short comings in knowledge!
Stand tall and hound the buggers till they get it right!
If you don,t few will come to the plate for you!
As a Vic rider since late 08 with a cumulative 100000 Victory klms, I to had a few issues in the early stages of ownership, I learned to set my own rear wheel and tensions tighten poorly machined parts and make little things right as before the Lloydminster area dealer was open all I got was crap from elk island sales Near Edmonton!
Now I can,t imagine anouther bike as my fat ass has settled into my geezer glide and I'm as happy as a clam!
Here's to hoping you to get the poop sorted out and you to find the home you paid good money for on the back of that shinny new ride you have!
Failing that keep us informed so others to can weigh to good with the bad and allow all to see what the shortcomings of these bitches are!
Best of luck!

 

[Oldman47]

A loose feeling shifter is perfectly normal on the 106/6. I am not going to make any excuses for it but you may well find the dealer thinks it is working perfectly. It is so "normal" that WD makes good money from people who just can't stand it by selling them a replacement bushing kit.
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I find, after the first 5000 miles, that I no longer notice that sloppy biach.
Noises. If it sounds like a loud sewing machine when you are running down the road that is also quite normal. You can just hear that needle going up and down while you are riding down the road. I think it is valve train noise but whatever it is it is quite OK.
I came from this bike and know exactly what you mean about a better feeling and quieter shifter on a Star.

If I am in no hurry I upshift at around 3000 RPM and downshift a bit before the engine drops below 2000 RPM. It is an old man's way of riding but gives me relatively clean shifts in all but the first to and from second transition and it means I never feel the engine lugging and making ridiculous movements due to the torque compensator being forced to do its job.
The right way to start a Victory, which I learned after ruining my first sprag clutch, is to crack the throttle slightly and stay on the starter button until the engine is running, not just firing once. If you get in the habit of doing it that way you will never need to spend 2 C notes to get the starter clutch replaced after a backfire.

 

[Cotton]

Well I dropped it off at the dealer and he actually gave me a loaner which happened to be an Indian springfield.
This bike has power to spare and the tranny shifts smooth and quiet, at least compared to the victory. If my victory was like this there would be no problem, but from what I am hearing here I don't believe the shop will be able to remedy what ails me most, that damn slop. I wanted a dresser, but may end up with fewer options and a more satisfying ride. I just cringe every time I have to shift. Thank you guys for your concern and comments. I will let you know what the outcome is.

 

[J.Wales]

When I went to look at the Indian and Victory, I sat on an Indian first and it was cramped, I'm 6'2". I got on the Victory and never considered the Indian again. I'm not that keen on the styling of the Indian anyway.

The guys at my dealership keep trying to get me to just try a test ride on an Indian. Why, I rode in on the only Vision they ever sold. I'm very happy.