You guys rock!

 

Even used Harley prices are down a couple thousand from two years ago

In fairness, everything got stupid high just before then

i just got my first ride in a Huey helicopter next to the hole

Giggletitties

The number of young people that have the luxury to afford a $30-40k

They bank on their eagerness, stupidity & hopes of a barely qualifying credit score haha

That brand has likely already peaked now that the old Victory folder is empty.

Yup, even had to start copying off HD

The Indian motorcycle division is simply “small potatoes“ in the Polaris Industries world.

The smalls ie clothing / toys / copyrights / whatknots earns them more than the machines

he went back and edited his post after my comment

And dont you forget it haha thanks again man

 

The Mostly Bad:
The biggest fright I’ve had regarding Victory lately is seeing what people are selling their bikes for.

The Vic Shop recently sold a near perfect black CCT for $5,500. Completely up to date regarding service (mileage wise) by Rylan himself.

18 months ago I thought I did well buying my 2013 Hard-Ball for $5,500. Yes, I know I spent too much after buying it but at this point, it's better than it was when it was delivered to the initial selling dealer. Except it now has 45K miles on it.

$5,500 for Rylan’s CCT is likely the most he could have gotten out of it had he parted it out. So selling it whole was absolutely his best route.

I was on Facebook last night and saw another great CCT with an asking price of $6,500. I thought, hmm, I believe Rylan has already set the asking price bar quite low for a CCT.

So, yea, $9,000 to $10,000 to have a 117” installed = sorry, that's likely well off the table for the duration at this point. Sorry CCT and Hard-Ball.

Pretty sure I’m done with any additional ‘upgrades’ at this point. Likely only normal maintenance from here on out.

The Mostly Good:
I admit to getting a bit of a chuckle when I see people thinking and posting their CC/CCT/H-B/Magnum/X-1 is still worth $10,000, $15,000 or even more. Ah, yea, not in this world but it's good to start high I guess because. You can always come down in price when reality sets in. But then the seller tends to badmouth the brand thinking no one wants a Victory. Sure we do, most of us are just aware of the actual selling prices. I see it's a bit worse price wise for the steel framed bikes.

The cold hard truth as I see it today is that a Victory motorcycle is undoubtedly the very best value in the cruiser/bagger market, period. As added benefits, the later Cross bike and steel frame designs still look current, new, fresh, unique and exciting. Plus they tend to be rock solid machines with just routine maintenance.

I will forever appreciate the design and R&T teams at Polaris who so clearly put their heart and soul into building their 'New American Motorcycle Company.'

I'm on my 3rd victory latest is 2013 Kingpin with 13,000 miles. Paid $5000, wife asked if I wanted another Harley. Told her No couldn't afford to keep it running. In the 8 years of owning Victory, Never fixed one. Oh yea, love the oooover drive!

 

 

I Love my 06 KingPin the only downfall there isn't anyone in the Dallas Ft Forth area that will work on it. I have been to Strokers in Dallas they will do basic maintenance and that's it. They will get parts that we need but if you have any electronic issues you are out of luck. If any of the members here know of a Victory mechanic up here in the DFW Area please let me know.
I have done all of the repairs on my bike but I don't have to tools to remove and replace the the clutch.
Keep on keeping on
smitty

 

Being in Texas, you do have a few excellent Victory service options. Noe Martinez, Correy at Hammered Steel and @jmstang302 to name a few off the top of my head. They may be a ride, but that's not bad either.

 

Only one special tool is needed to remove the clutch. Some have made their own for under $10 of materials. Fortunately these bikes are quite easy to work on with mostly basic hand tools.

Plus there’s a lot of help on here from some very experienced techs who are willing to walk you through it.

If you haven’t done so yet, get the appropriate Service Manual. They’re also quite good.

Have you inquired with Strokers about doing a clutch on a Victory and they said no? That would be quite disappointing if true.

 

It still blows my mind that Vic owners get turned away from shops. It's not like you're asking to have your engine rebuilt.

 

@jmstang302 I don’t think he’d enjoy living on that flat of land but congratulations anyway & leave those 8 traclks boxed up ole Slicks already got another one & is very close to that cooler combo

 

It took me quite a while to sell my 22K miles CCT for $12K loaded with extras + $1500 separately for the tour trunk so I did well compared to today and rotated back to owning a Moto Guzzi which is another MC you are on your own to fix if anything goes wrong, but with the internet most anything for either can be had. My Guzzi is approaching 50,000 (S)miles and not without it's own few niggles to deal with. *But given all in prices today and my rather very mature age that I find myself looking for a low priced Vision as I see it as a comfortable cross between my V-twin cruisers (HD's + Vic) and my BMW K1200LT if they mated. "The price is what you pay the value is what you get".

 

I look forward to welcoming you back to the Victory fold @SemperVee.

Moto Guzzi is still a current brand and yet getting just about anything for a late model (106/6) Victory is a breeze compared to a late model Guzzi.

Before I bought my Hard-Ball I gave serious consideration to a black Moto Guzzi Eldorado 1400. I rode pretty much nothing but a Moto Guzzi for over 35 years. But getting a later model Eldorado just didn’t make sense to me. Near zero dealer knowledge or manufacturer support. Plus parts are very scarce and accessories near nonexistent.

I’m very pleased to have stayed the course with another Victory motorcycle.

 

Thanks Mark! Still on the hunt. . .

 

Was recently on a week long ride with a HD guy. He mentioned that HD went woke. Not sure what he was talking about but he said similar to bud light. He said he isn’t buying anything from the dealer anymore, getting everything on line now, doesn’t want to give the company any more money.

I asked him if that means he is shopping for a different brand bike? He snapped back and said FUK no, I’m not changing tattoos!!! 😂

 

They are out there, lucky we got us pin dropping them across the planet, polanus is polanus thats polanus, they don’t reinvent the wheel, well, not since creating victory. Always cross reference part numbers with polanus, many parts are outta a bin from another polanus item, including clothing & tattoos

 

The bad is finding machines priced like this, granted, they’ll tack a bunch of fees on but it still isn’t helping private parties asking prices when dealerships advertise cheaper

 

The trunk looks like it was rattle can spray painted & It has 104k miles on it & doesn’t have a power commander under either side cover, without pulling the tank I don’t know if has a llyods filter & maximus but I hope it’s not a stock tune on those pipes. It has brand new shinko journeys & brake pads front & rear. I informed them the clutch cable is way too tight, zero play but got that look of “I’m the stupid one”

 

but got that look of “I’m the stupid one”

I know that look. I seem to get that look a lot from my wife.

 

$5k for that black CCT could still be a somewhat decent deal. I doubt they’d turn down $4k cash out the door for it. They likely gave the buyer $1500 for it as a trade-in.

105K miles on a ‘dead brand’ with less than very good condition paint is a somewhat difficult sale for that dealer.

Just think what used Polaris Indians will go for after they kill that brand off as well.

Do you think by Jan 2027 and 10 years of parts only sales for Victory, Polaris would have made more money on Victory in that 10 year span than in its near 20 year run at selling the bikes?

Polaris’ cost of goods sold for Victory parts amounts to little more than warehouse and inventory costs.

 

I just bought a 15 Vegas 8 Ball for 5k. It only has 3100 miles on it. It looks and rides like brand new. It's probably worth more than that but it's also close to the end of riding season.

These are still great bikes. I own Indian, too. Those are great bikes, as well.

 

Here in Oklahoma, our bikes are still fetching a good amount on the used market. I'm seeing CC's and CCT's selling for near the $10K mark. Now granted, that's not what they're actually worth (worth more than that IMO), but I can honestly say I haven't seen a quality example of one being sold anywhere close to the $5-6K mark. Usually double that amount and they are disappearing off of FB marketplace and don't appear to be stagnant in selling.

Quite honestly, who the heck is spending $30K+ for a Harley bagger and is that demographic shrinking? Watching Cycledrag's videos he's posted of Sturgis suggests that the anyone under the age of 55+ are not the ones riding full dress baggers. Sure, as some of us age, the idea of a having a nice tourer sounds great, but at the same time, having to spend the current ask for a HD is very off putting. Not to even mention that as these bikes get more complicated, weight gets stacked on to them making them even less appealing for hour long pleasure cruises. I've done that with a Royal Star and even being only 47 currently, it was still not that much fun and actually dissuaded me from getting it out for short jaunts around town.

I don't think the market is tanking, I think it's correcting itself more than anything from the stupid prices of the past few years. Right now, there's 16 CCT with 66K miles and the ask is $8,950. That's reasonable especially compared to the Street Glides that are posted for double that with more miles and/or older year models.

 

but I can honestly say I haven't seen a quality example of one being sold anywhere close to the $5-6K mark.

Here is a quality 2013 Cross Country with ABS, D&D slip-ons, Klock Werks windshield, only 20k miles, absolutely perfect condition, not a scratch on it, that I bought in October last year for $5599 from an Indian dealer.

 

The one I posted is a 2014 CC 8ball that had lowers, rear boards & trunk added to it also has 103k miles

 

That is most definitely a beautiful motorcycle. Congratulations.

 

Thank you, Mark. Looks similar to yours.

 

No, that red is a real attention getter. My gloss pearl white is mostly, just different. Plus having your beauty blacked out instead of chrome adds another level to the cool factor.

Love it and don't ever leave it. The odds are 99.99% in your favor that it will love you with just the basic normal maintenance.

 

I miss mine every time I look at my other Vics. I had a chance to buy another sunset red Vic but ended up buying a different color at the time. I still kick myself in the ass for that.

 

Yea, the Jackpot could easily become your garage queen.

 

Yes,and mine definitely has become my garage queen.

 

Buy toys for the fun, not the resell value.

Soon the last Victory made will be 10 years old. Shops don't want to touch anything that age. Dealers don't want them around. Value drops off quickly on any motorcycle that gets close to that age.

 

Speaking of......what was the LAST Victory bike ever made?

 

@KLA asks a really a great question. Polaris was so bent on trashing their Victory brand I doubt anyone in management or most certainly marketing paid any attention to what the last batch of Victory’s off the line were.

The first Victory bikes are fairly well known. By the time Polaris killed Victory they mostly hid the fact they even existed.

There are most certainly records and someone at Polaris definitely knows. Whether or not they care is the real question.

Most Polaris Indian dealers shun Victory. I think part of that reason is the Victory clearly shows the tree from which the Scout line and the Challenger lines grew from. Too many Indian people are so sold on the 1901 Marketing plan and they think there’s actually a stand alone company named Indian Motorcycles. Seeing a Victory, to some of them, is more truth than they can stand.

 

Resale is not there when it comes to Victory. There was a beautiful and very low mileage Roland Sands Vegas on Bring a Trailer earlier this week that sold for $5800. At those kind of prices and with Victory's proven reliability, why sell at all?

 

It's time to buy, not sell. Get a few rolling sets of spare parts.
They made just over 10,000 Vincent's. 77? years later you could build a new and better one from all new parts, if your wallet was deep enough. Same as Springfield built Indians.

 

For the last Vic made, I was going to suggest resurrecting the thread somewhere here about production numbers via VIN (I think there was one anyway) and seeing who has the highest number. We know they didn’t discern between models, so that would be the next best bet.

but sounds like that one special one has already been identified.

y’all are making me recall the beginnings of my Vic ownership. Bought my Vision in Oct 2016…shortly thereafter came the announcement in Jan 2017. Didn’t care though…I got the bike I wanted.

still running strong with just under 60k on the clock and will continue to own/ride until the wheels fall off. No comments allowed on my still treaded Metz 888 Brad. Yes, I’m talking to you.

 

with just under 60k on the clock

Didn’t our bikes hit 40k around the same time, this odo pics from a couple days ago

 

Half Crazy managed to fit a regulator for a HD Softail to his yellow KingPin. Was on it when he sold it.

 

HC was a magician with these bikes. He knew so much about Victory bikes. I really miss him around here.