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To me what killed Victory was the Scout (yes the rip-off of Victory) and the purchase of Indian itself. It proved to Polaris that a water cooled V-Twin will work in the American Cruiser market. To me at that point the Octane was "here's your last hoo-ra Victory". Rest assured that the quality of Victory was known industry wide which Indian took full advantage of. But will they learn not everyone wants fenders that big on their bikes or a water-cooled engine. Will they care? Or is Indian exactly what they dreamed of in 1999? Get into a niche' (over priced motorcycle) with a quality product, alibi limited in offerings, making the company just a couple of millions in profit each year but staying in the "game" just in case. I think not.

 

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My buddy rides a 2014 Chieftan with 15K on it no clacking issues at all.

 

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Polaris isn't going to do a damn thing the law doesn't require them.