[Chattanooga_Mark]

I'll be glad to help, do you take PayPal?

PS - I often need to go a different direction to control my buffet intake. Cause I loves me some sushi and crab rangoon.

 

[Chattanooga_Mark]

jjpilot,

I put about 350 miles on my CCT with forged bars this weekend. I like your piece a lot. Simple, elegant and it gets the job done. Well done sir.

 

[Chattanooga_Mark]

I put about 300 highway miles on today. CFAD, Victory forged bars, Shark Evoline helmet and a 3" shorter than stock (CCT) 7jurock windshield.

Buffeting? What buffeting.

Thank you jjpilot!

 

[Chattanooga_Mark]

Does your airfoil work with or against the air flow when using JTD lowers? I had my right JTD lower on today and felt more heat than I remember, ever. The temperature only made it to 84 today but my right calf was baking while my left one never felt any heat.

I've only read very positive comments about the JTD lowers. But I'm pulling the right one off, not installing the left side at this point.

 

[Chattanooga_Mark]

jjpilot,

Well, I'm thinking directing that much air flow down may also play havoc with the JTD lowers. I suspect the result would be similar between the oem CCT lowers and the JTD lowers. I removed my bug splattered right JTD lower insert and placed it on the work bench. It's resting comfortably next to the clean as can be left one. I was glad to be able to use the highway pegs on the forged bar to get my calf away from the hot air that was blowing on it. I stopped to remove the airfoil as that would be the quickest and easiest thing to do. But I didn't have a 10mm wrench in my saddlebag and that's what I would have needed. Opening or closing the JTD door (vent) made no difference whatsoever.

I'm very pleased with the air management with your airfoil and the open forged bars. Once it gets colder, I'll remove the airfoil and try the JTD lowers again. But I'll not have them both installed a second time.

 

[Chattanooga_Mark]

No, the Victory lower fairing air deflectors will not fit with forged bars. They do work without issue with the Victory round bars though.

I removed my CCT lowers in favor of the forged bars. I installed one of jjpilot's airfoils about 2K miles ago. The combo works GREAT. Buffeting, what buffeting?

I also have a set of JTD forged bar inserts but they don't play well with the airfoil. I removed my JTD insert and am very pleased to just be running jjpilot's airfoil.

Maybe when the colder winter weather comes in I'll remove the airfoil and install the JTD inserts. But I'm in no hurry to do so.

 

[Chattanooga_Mark]

I removed the jjpilot fork aerofoil and installed the JTD inserts today into my CCT forged bars. I'll only do 400 miles tomorrow but it could be a bit chilly in the early morning hours. But that should give me a good idea of how it all works.


JTD forged bar insert question: the right side door actuator hits the front valve cover and the lower part of the door hits the front protrusion on the rear brake cylinder. That can't be 'normal', what did I do wrong?

 

[Chattanooga_Mark]

Yes, there is certainly a left and a right side lower and door. They really only go on one way. I'll just use a Dremel tool to shave off a bit off the right door where it hits the master cylinder protrusion. I could use a few rubber washers to move the JTD insert forward a bit, but that would look goofy.

I put nearly 400 miles on the CCT today. It was 49 degrees and a bit damp when I left the house this morning. It only reached 51 after the first 100 miles. I actually used the heated grips for a while as well. There is absolutely no, none, nada, zip, zero buffeting with the forged bars and the JTD lowers. I did notice the cool air coming above the forged bars and below the fairing hitting my thighs. This would be the air the CCT lower fairing air deflectors would redirect this airflow. The air was coming straight back, without any buffeting or swirling at all. I was impressed with the smooth airflow design of the Victory fairing as well as the JTD lowers in the forged bars.

When I left where I was this afternoon it was 83 degrees. My lowers legs were getting hot because the JTD doors were still fully closed. Moving my feet a bit off the floorboard made an improvement though. Once we were able to stop, I fully opened the doors (parallel to the CCT) before getting back on the highway. Oh my, what WONDERFUL air flow. I had just a nice breeze on my lower legs, not hot at all. No hot air pooling in front of my legs or upper thighs at all. VERY slight warm, not hot, air behind me where the passengers legs would be. Not hot and no buffeting, why oh why couldn't the Victory designers have done this on their own with the oem CCT lowers.

The jjpilot fork airfoil will be residing on my work bench until next Spring. Once the temps get and remain high, the JTD lowers will likely come off and jjpilots airfoil will likely go back on.

If you have a CCT or a CC and have ever thought about the Victory forged bars and a set of the JTD lowers - GO FOR IT. It's an excellent setup. Besides, the forged bars IMHO, just look 'right' on the Victory Cross bikes.

 

[Chattanooga_Mark]

I have a 7jurock CCT shield that's 15" from the cutout to the top, same width as the oem CCT shield. My oem CCT shield was 18". Personally, I think using the CCT windshield brackets that hold the windshield off the fairing all along the lower edge and uses a cutout does wonders to reduce/eliminate buffeting. My old Honda Valkyrie Interstate windshield used a similar system in the fairing and the windshield to reduce buffeting. The 2016 and newer batwing faired H-D's have also finally come to realize that having a system to allow air to flow up the inside of the windshield makes a huge improvement to reduce/eliminate buffeting. I actually get smashed bugs on the inside of the shield as well as the outside.

If I had any version of the Cross bikes, I'd add the CCT windshield brackets and use a CCT windshield that fit my height. The oem Cross bike windshields could actually be causing buffeting and sometimes a flip on the top will help redirect it. But the CCT shield cutout and the open lower edge help to eliminate it. I'm about 5'10.5" with a 31" inseam. My 15" CCT windshield top is about the height of my nose or upper lip when I'm riding. I can see over it with ease in the rain or slouch a bit in the cold and use it for cover.

One of my old Moto Guzzi bikes had a terrible issue with buffeting. Many of us got out a hole saw and installed these snap vents to help reduce the windshield back pressure. They worked remarkably well for what they are. Brought to you by Craig Vetter no less. Vetter vent alert

The CCT windshield brackets use the same 4 attaching points as the CC windshield. Reducing backpreasure and allowing airflow up the inside of the windshield works wonders.

I would not use the jjpilot fork airfoil with the JTD lowers. When I tried it, I got very poor performance. My feet and lower legs were awwash in engine/exhaust heat. The CFAD works great on its own. But it doesn't play well with the CCT lowers or the JTD lowers in Victory forged bars.

 

[Chattanooga_Mark]

I don't know how much taller the 'Tall" CCT windshield is. The "Standard" (oem) CCT windshield is 18" from the top of the cutout to the top of the windshield. My 7jurock aftermarket windshield measures 15" from the top of the cutout to the top of the windshield. My aftermarket 7jurock windshield has no flip and looks just like the oem CCT windshield, only 3" shorter.

 

[Chattanooga_Mark]

jjpilot,

Your CFAD is on my bench ready to go back on as soon I I remove the JTD inserts. Thank you for all you've done with these. It's was an awesome addition for me with the forged bars.

Merry Christmas

 

[Chattanooga_Mark]

No sir, neither my JTD lowers, forged bars or my original CCT lowers are for sale. I do have CCT windshields and handlebars for sale on the other Victory Forum though.