A couple of months ago I tried out a Cross Roads, a Cross Country and a Vision. I took a passenger on the Cross Country and the suspension sucked but I'm certain that it was due to a lack of air in the rear shock because I took out the same passenger on the Vision and it felt great(what a bike!). One thing that I was thinking while out with these bikes was that something was missing and I think for me, it was that the stock pipes just are too sedate for my liking, so that's no biggie. My Vulcan has after-market pipes with a nice low rumble and I'm just used to that sound. I thought that the Harleys that I had demoed last year had more bark but I was wrong because I just went out this past weekend to the Harley demo rides and the Road King and Electra Glide Classic that I took out were just as sedate. Honestly, I've been flip-flopping back and forth between Harley and Victory for a long time, I like both brands. Lately I was convinced that the Harley tourers would be the way to go but after trying them out again, after giving it some more thought, I'm really starting to doubt that sentiment now. The Harleys are a lot smaller then my Vulcan 1600 Classic, I'm six feet tall and I feel like I'm being cramped on the Harleys. I don't mind being close to my wife but we both felt a bit squished together on the Harley tourers this weekend, she didn't like it after awhile. The Harley's suspension, handling and power were fine, they're great looking bikes IMO but then there was the vibrating when coming to a stop, at first I thought that it was a neat character but after a bit, and being honest with myself, I think that it was wearing on me a bit. It looks like Victory is a better choice then a Harley for me. I really like the looks of the Harleys but I don't think that the vibrating and cramped quarters are worth it in the end. My neighbour just bought a brand new 2012 Ultra Classic and it's great for him because he's quite short. It's great to go to as many demo rides as possible, you really start to hone in on what's important to you and what isn't, plus it's free! I'm really impressed that Victory now has ABS brakes on all of their touring bikes now, that's what I wanted to see. Way to go Victory!