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The Rise And fall Of Victory

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  1. slickvic

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    When I am able ..... I too will seek the starship Vision and I will be a commander of said ship. That is one bike I would love to own. No trunk just lock and ride backrest so an all blacked out Vision Street is what I would like. Honey likes the Vision too but she wants the trunk.
     
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    Like you my riding days are also numbered. It's been 4 years now since Victory was killed off and I won't beat that horse any longer. It's dead and it will never get up again. I try not to get too cranked up about things I have no control over so I prefer to let it RIP. Hopefully you'll enjoy your ride for many years to come just as I hope to.
     
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    One of my Harley Kool-Aid mates calls Victory Defeat:bigpop:
     
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    I saw a license plate on a cross country :
    XTINCT thought that was pretty funny
     
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    Ya I've heard that one a few times from My Harley friends as well. Most of us Vic owners probably seen that jab coming . It's all in good fun not to be taken seriously, especially when there's no real come back other than the twist grip.
     
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    I'm new to Victory myself, but have been a fan for years and knew I'd own a Kingpin some day. While I can understand the resentment towards Polaris for how they've handled business and treated their dealer network and customers over the years... I think we can all agree that they make one hell of a bike. Whether it's an Indian or a Victory. I've never ridden one of the new Indians but I've spent a lot of time looking at them in person, sitting on them, and watching ride reviews. Particularly the new Chief line looks amazing to me.

    I will personally never be capable or willing to spend $15-20k on a new bike, let alone $30k!!!! But in 10 years one if those Chief Bobbers might be very appealing sitting next to my Kingpin. And from what I've seen, this bike will be a better, more capable machine than any Harley out there. We'd be fools to deprive ourselves from experiencing another great bike from this company that, truth be told, is only as good as it is because of the development of the bikes we're riding now. I've even heard some people claim that these new Indians have the bones of what was to be the next line of Victorys, rebadged as Indians once the brand was dropped.

    These are just my own thoughts and viewpoints on the subject. I have not had the personal trauma at the hands of Polaris/Indian that some of you have experienced. But if you're going to disown Polaris for shutting down Victory, by not riding an Indian, you might as well deprive yourself from riding your Victory as well.
     
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    Nonsense
     
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    You had me until those closing few words hahaha
     
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    Everything you said was pretty much spot on except for the last sentence/ statement.

    “ by not riding an Indian, you might as well deprive yourself from riding your Victory as well. “

    you see there’s a saying regarding being scorned. Theres all kinds of cliche’ sayings actually but I can tell you this. It’s not what Polaris did to Victory that has left a permanent mark on so many ....... it’s how they did it. While Polaris Indian is a good motorcycle made by good people that are great full to have a job ........ they (Indians) just are not and will never be a Victory.
    For many here it’s still a choice to ride a Victory just like it was when they were in production. Many of us wanted to stray from the norm year after year decade after decade of the same styling and the same reliability issues. Victory developed into a motorcycle that those who were fortunate enough to ride and own one knew how good they were and this made the move to own one. We how it performed and looked. How different it was and how much better it was. We harnessed the experience of owning a piece of American steel that was modern different and many of us were and are still proud to own and ride one. No matter what anyone says....... Harley is a Harley and Indian is an Indian but neither is a Victory.
    People are funny about what they think is popular and what they want to spend their hard earned $$$$ on and it trickles it’s way all the way up the corporate ladder to individuals that don’t even ride yet they get to make the deciscion based on nothing more than covering their own ASS !
    Victory and Indian could and should have survived together. Polaris had the money to make it happen. Instead they’re making bikes now that are starting to look like Harleys. Not Victory’s. No thanks. I’m old enough to know that 10yrs ago when I made to commitment to own a Victory I knew it was for the long haul. Not one here to follow the masses but one to definitely stray from the herd.
     
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    All I'm saying, is I think it's okay to like and use a quality product and better your life with it, even if you don't like the company that makes it.

    Ride on and love life.
     
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    Your right and you did say that. I don’t have anything against Polaris. Just the leaders that ran it. Same with HD. Nothing against those beautiful bikes. I’m just not dropping 30k on either ..... ever.

    But it’s not okay to “better your life “ with a company you don’t like. How is owning an Indian bettering my life ? I’ve ridden many dem days. Better than HD imo but not as good as getting back in the saddle of One of my Vic’s.
     
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    This post, particularly the last part, exhibits a grave misunderstanding of the very people you direct the post to.
     
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    I said I'm new to Victory and this forum, and that this was just my viewpoint. I was under the assumption that this was a forum where people could express their thoughts and opinions.

    I appreciate the feedback and would be interested in learning what I'm missing. I'm sure there's lots of history here I know nothing about.
     
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    The first fatal flaw in your position is the assumption that anyone is depriving themselves. Second assumption is that this is the result of personal trauma, and finally the statement that I SHOULD deprive myself of riding my Victory is just plain stupidity.

    I could go through the alphabet and from Aprilla to Zero name dozens of bikes I would like to own and ride. The only way I would be depriving myself would be to say I can’t have any of them because I’m going to limit myself to heavy American v-twin cruisers not from Harley. It should be worth noting here, nobody is saying “don’t buy an Indian, they’re not good bikes”. If you like ‘em and want one, have at it and enjoy the ride! What is being said is I choose to not do any further business with that company.

    Perhaps this analogy will better explain it. Imagine you’re a young man and you meet a smokin hot chick. She’s an aspiring musician and she’s really good. You guys hit it off real good so you buy her a car and mover her in with you. Things are going great until one day she tells you she’s decided to quit the music business and go into acting. In fact she already auditioned with a production company and got her first job! Starting Monday she’s going to be giving other guys blow jobs in porno. Do you continue to support her? I would break up with her. There’s like 3.5 billion other females on the planet, I’ll pick one of them. Even if a few years down the road she starts making non porno movies, I have no desire to take her back and financially support her again. If some other guy wants her more power to him, I’m not traumatized nor am I depriving myself by having sex with other women.
     
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    Thanks a lot Bob, now I’m thinkin about porn again, @Svtfiend should've just used the edit button & deleted that last sentence while you had the chance lmao, I get what you meant though. I, myself, have no issues buying another Polaris product, especially a side by side because they make fantastically reliable machines, hell, if I wanted an new road master I buy one. I’m not that brand loyal, I don’t feel scorned, I personally don’t care what badge is on a gas tank or side panel. I do absolutely love my XCT, I understand polaranus made a business decision, I wish they’d rethought that decision but it is what it is & either way, I got one of the best bikes EVER made & now, it’s became an instant classic so lucky me
     

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