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The Official Politics and Religion Thread

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  1. lou8700

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    Thanks for the post.
     
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    Seriously? Did you just wake from a 6 month coma?
     
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    No, he's not technically responsible for the virus itself, but he is certainly responsible for the US being the world's epicenter of the virus (STILL!).

    Like we were saying, Vietnam shares a border with China and they have had 841 cases and 13 deaths.
     
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    On the contrary, the president understands the urgency very well, and also understands political hardball.

    Instead of compromising on legislation that would immediately help Americans pummeled by the coronavirus, Pelosi and Schumer prioritized issues that had nothing to do with the well-being of the nation. They pressed instead to ban ID requirements and signature verification for voters – measures that, as the president noted, would encourage increased fraud in our elections, and that Republicans would never accept.


    Mainly, Pelosi and Schumer stonewalled because they want to torpedo the U.S. economy. Democrats know that creating jobs is Trump’s signature achievement, and also the most important issue to voters. By blocking the next round of stimulus, they intentionally undermined the financial security of tens of millions of Americans.


    They don’t care; their priority is beating President Trump. The American people be damned.

    But aren’t Democrat leaders confident they will oust Trump in November? Hasn’t that been their message of late? That we will see not just a blue wave, but a blue tsunami, taking over the Senate as well as the Oval Office?

    That faux optimism is entirely manufactured, aimed at driving down turnout and fundraising from disheartened Republicans. Democrats know their candidate’s brief surge is already fading.


    Polling shows Joe Biden’s lead slipping both nationally and in crucial swing states. In late July, the Real Clear Politics average of national polls gave him a nine-point lead; that gap is now six points. Two of the newest polls show Biden ahead by only three points.

    Biden is also losing ground in swing states like Wisconsin, Florida and Michigan.
    Liz Peek: Trump's big win on relief orders – here's why Pelosi, Schumer are so unhappy
     
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    then it’s possible what we are seeing is germ warfare, we have never seen the flu continue into the warm summer months, so it is plausible someone with Vials of the virus intentionally infecting people in large gatherings is not that far-fetched.

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    possibilities are endless, when you have something that passes the reasonable doubt test I would love to hear it... but evidence not circumstance is going to be needed
     
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    He’s responsible for the response to the virus. I could probably writes pages on firing the WH pandemic response team, ignoring the response play book, calling it a hoax, telling his believers it’s not as bad as the flu, all the way up to suggesting injection of disinfectant to claiming too much testing was the problem. Anyone that’s been paying attention these last six to eight months can see that pretty much every step of the way, every action he took was inadequate to just plain wrong. The result: economic crash, thousands of businesses bankrupt, millions of Americans jobless on unemployment, 5 million Americans sick, 160,000 dead and rising. Out of 197 countries, the United States is in last place. He’s responsible for that.
     
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    We would LOVE to see you try. Chickenshit.
     
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    You think the response we had under Obama for the swine flu and the response we've had from Trump on covid-19 are equitable? Ask ANY responsible doctor about how important it is to take action early and decisively to head of an epidemic and they'll all agree. Trump spent MONTHS worrying more about how this was going to affect his campaign re-election, downplaying it's severity and seriousness at every turn until we're now at the point where 160,000 people have died. Look at pretty much every other 1st world nation on earth.. and they've done immensely better than we have. Like it or not when you the man in the big chair and sh1t hits the fan there's only one person responsible. Only, as quoted above.. Trump doesn't feel he should be held responsible at all. He's STILL worried more about optics than lives.. pushing to open businesses and schools across the nation even in states that are out of control with skyrocketing numbers of infected. At this rate we're going to blow past the total dead from any pandemic in written history in this country before it's all said and done. Maybe this is Donnie's big plan for what to do with the insolvency of social security.. kill off as many elderly and sick as we can.
     
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    While I appreciate you posting the link to the article you cut and pasted you really should put the copy-pasted material in quotes or italics or something.. I was shocked and astonished at the erudite manner in which you were posting your opinion.. until I realized it WASN'T your opinion.

    As to the content.. I can't disagree that Congress and the Senate are playing politics while people are suffering. I DISAGREE that it's Schumer and Pelosi that are the stumbling blocks here... From what I recall the House had passed a stimulus package a LONG time ago that The GRIM REAPER of legislation McConnell refused to even consider or look at in the Senate.

    "Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said there won’t be a new COVID-19 relief package without liability protections for companies. "

    What’s holding up more coronavirus relief?


    Yet again the GOP is more worried about handouts to the big business than it is about the 100's of millions of people that voted them into office.
     
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    This **** has to STOP and NOW. The post office is the oldest institution in the US and is essential for the smooth operation of our country.

    "On the heels of a "Friday Night Massacre" at the U.S. Postal Service that deeply alarmed lawmakers, activists, and ordinary citizens nationwide, two House Democrats are demanding the immediate removal of Postmaster General Louis DeJoy over his sweeping operational changes to the beloved government service that have slowed the delivery of essential packages and jeopardized mail-in voting."

    "As the American Prospect's David Dayen
    noted, the Postal Service under DeJoy's leadership has also "informed states that they'll need to pay first-class 55-cent postage to mail ballots to voters, rather than the normal 20-cent bulk rate."

    "That nearly triples the per-ballot cost at a time when tens of millions more will be delivered," Dayen noted. "The rate change would have to go through the Postal Regulatory Commission and, undoubtedly, litigation. But the time frame for that is incredibly short, as ballots go out very soon. A side benefit of this money grab is that states and cities may decide they don't have the money to mail absentee ballots, and will make them harder to get. Which is exactly the worst-case scenario everyone fears."

    Lawmakers Demand Removal of Postmaster General DeJoy Over 'Nefarious' Efforts to Destroy the Postal Service and 'Aid Trump Reelection'


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    ...I thought so too... until I read the word faux
     
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    Anything that goes wrong he is responsible for and anything that goes right is because of your liberals, that’s fucking delusional all you do is repeat the same **** every day.....Still don’t make it right!

    It’s funny none of your delusional rantings ever mention the word China?
     
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