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Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Andy, Nov 11, 2012.

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  1. Blowndodge

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    "It's up to all of us!" There he goes again! A true activist tell ALL of US what we should do! You really should only speak for yourself. Asians, Immigrant Africans, India's, all out earn Whites. Why you home grown's can't succeed is a question you need to look into yourself.
     
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    Something I don’t think Trumpies realize is all the childish nonsense they fell for in 2016...isn’t new anymore. Not only does Joe know what’s coming, he has four years of experience (his team does) of seeing Trump’s vulnerability. How many times have we seen him melt down in a Twitter tantrum because someone like Pelosi said he’s covering up something? Two things going against him in 2020 debates: his game and his vulnerabilities are both known.
     
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    You seem to think if he carries the majority of the Republicans he wins. Under his watch we lead the world in sick and dead people with a cratered economy. And most of the Governors in the US are Republicans. It doesn't appear he is gonna carry very many moderate women especially if a woman in on the VP ticket.

    I keep waiting for the Dems to shoot themselves in the foot so think Trump will get re-elected. Slowly I am thinking that may not happen now.
     
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    If I were debating Trump the strategy is too easy. The more you can get him to ad lib the stupider he gets. If Joe can keep his cool and stay on message Trump has no chance. I would love to hear Joe ask him a few detailed questions about all the things Trump takes credit for. Imagine Donnie trying to explain what is the trade deal between Mexico, the US and Canada? I guarantee he has no clue what is in it in any sort of detail. How is that wall coming along and where is the check from Mexico? 11 years now to come up with a new health care plan that has been "coming in the next few weeks"...... where is it?

    Remember when Donnie started wandering around the stage when Clinton was answering a question? What if Biden did the stalking, Trump would lose his ****, he will be so easy to drag off base and into areas he literally has NO knowledge, and there are a LOT of those. His handlers will not be sleeping well the night before.

    As far as VP I would love to see Kamala Harris take care of Puppet Pence, that would be some good TV right there!
     
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    Trump and company could be under investigation for bank and insurance fraud, Manhattan DA Vance reveals

    • Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr. could be investigating President Donald Trump and his company for possible insurance and bank fraud, the prosecutor's office revealed in a new court filing.
    • That revelation came in a filing by Vance's office that urged a federal judge to toss out Trump's new legal effort to prevent prosecutors from getting his tax returns and other records from his accountants through a grand jury subpoena.
    • The U.S. Supreme Court earlier this summer rejected Trump's bid to block the subpoena, ruling that presidents do not have immunity from being investigated for crimes by state prosecutors while in office.
     
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    Yes ... she would make him look like a tool.

    I believe Kamala would be an asset as VP
     
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    All of us is who I am referring to when I say that All Lives Matter. What does it mean when you say that "All Lives Matter?" But maybe you don't say that. You have made it pretty clear that my Black life is not as important as your White one.
    Here is the graph you presented regarding median income:
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    If what you are saying is that immigrants seem to have a better time of it than people born here, then you are supporting the belief that this is an American problem. Not just a Black problem, an American problem. All lives matter, remember?
     
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    You had a story, (with no link to prove you did not make it up) about 1 lawyer who went from being a democrat to being a Trumpocrat. I took you at your word. But here is a link to the Lincoln Project to go with the link I posted earlier to Republicans Vote Against Trump :
    Our Team | The Lincoln Project

    You can look up the actual history and who is part of the Lincoln Project.
    Here is a picture in case you can't read:
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    And here is the thing about Never Trumpers: They were right all along!
    Our current situation is proof of that.

    But I digress. You spoke of one person who abandoned the Democratic party. I replied with many who have left the Republican Party. Why not just claim victory like you usually do and move on?
     
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    So, how is this relevant? Is it somehow going to change anyone's mind about the larger issues effecting our country? Not going to put food on the table of the unemployed. Not bringing back the 150,000 dead from Corona Virus.
    Oh, I get it! It is a shiny object to focus on so we will forget how poor our current president is.

    Ok. Carry on! (Not sure that is going to work on people who are not easily distracted.)
    But carry on!

    Just for fun, can you reply with "Bullshit" again? That always cracks me up!
     
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    A wide range of issues in addition to hush money payments....yes, the porn star bribes were illegal, are being investigated, and that’s not all he’s going to prison for:
    N.Y. prosecutor: Trump financial probe not limited to ’hush money’ — POLITICO
     
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    I do believe that’s his plan. I have no doubt this judge will find he has to turn over the subpoena’d documents just like what has already been determined multiple times...and Trump will keep obstructing by appealing again to the Supreme Court. Delay delay delay, obstruct obstruct obstruct. All over documents that would exonerate him if he was innocent. But Trumpies don’t care, lawlessness is just fine with them as long as they get to choose who can and can not ignore the law.
     
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    Personally I think he'll be lost without a teleprompter feeding him or if he's lucky well rehearsed answers to pre-supplied questions. If he has to wing it he's cooked IMHO. If however I watched an unscripted Joe Bidden dominate a debate with knowledge and control that could swing my vote knowing he's not a total puppet.
     
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