[Flyboy]

Awesome, man. Can you get cams for it?!?

As for the whole Indian stealing the Vic concept, I think that bike was always going to be the Scout. The 2 companies have their own plans and development trajectories so I don't think things like this are necessary. I'm no expert, but I am pretty sure that the Scout was a legendary bike back in the day and it was a good move to bring it back. It was a logical follow-up and a pretty nice effort, too.

Can't say there wasn't some affect to Vic from sharing the same assembly facility. I feel they can handle both and so adaptable, once a new model can get its part built, well:

2015 Assembly Plant of the Year: Flexibility Shines Bright at Polaris ...
www.assemblymag.com › articles › 9306...
Oct 2, 2015 - In addition to building Indian and Victory motorcycles, the ..... factory-custom bikes on the sameline as high-volume .... The Indian and Victory motorcycle assembly lines use 40 AGCs.

 

[Flyboy]

Agree with you here, Flyboy. I'd like to think that it would also have a positive impact in the form of improved build techniques and processes across both brands. For me, some of the big improvements I want to see from Victory are better materials. This is something that doesn't get talked about much.

Take for instance the actual plastics on the Vision. The next version of the Viz should have a higher quality, thicker set of bodywork. I want to see access panels that hold their shape, not be so thin that they don't. I want to see better quality paint and a better-sorted wiring harness. I want to see a re-designed side stand that will not bend. A lot of little details that don't seem like much but add up collectively.

Revolutionary is great; evolutionary is just as critical. I hope that this consideration is also a part of the future of Victory.

Looks like form does follows function there. That have the function down, I agree to the bling her up...

 

[Flyboy]

I'm sure theyd have the ability to change a victory to an Indian scout as the rumor suggests. I've just never seen any concrete evidence that that's what happened. In my opinion the scout looks like an Indian, not a rebadged vic.

I just wouldn't mind getting to the bottom of that rumor, or if there was any sort of official verification that I missed that the scout was indeed meant to be a vic.

Not that it makes the slightest difference to me. Just wondering.

Pretty sure under the skin, there will be a lot of similar components, just smart business sense...

 

[Flyboy]

Oh for sure. It's just that I've read all over the place that scout was intended to be a Vic model first and Indian got the rights to it in the end because of the Indian name I guess? I think that's how it goes. I just wonder the validity of such claims and how that rumor even got started. Also, in addition, it looks like they took their time with the styling, making it look like an Indian with the fenders and head design and whathaveyou. To say it was supposed to be a Vic all along, they sure got the styling switched in a hurry.

I am one that too heard it and it was based on a media thing that Victory was to develop a new engine with Harley's released water-cools. Then Crickets.

After the release of the original Indian series, still no hint of Scout. The reason I was paying attention I was about acquire my Vic and was trying to learn more with Indian, a possibility. I just knew I didn't want a Harley and was checking out what was available.

So there may be truth in regards to the engine being patent applied under the name of Polaris and thus assumed it was for a Victory...

Polaris Registers Design for Liquid-Cooled Victory - Motorcycle ...
blog.motorcycle.com › 2014/04/21 › pol...
Apr 21, 2014 - Polaris Industries has registered a design for what ... new Victory cruiser powered by a liquid-cooled V-Twin engine. ... 042114-victory-liquid-cooled-design-patent- 04 ... may end up being used for this new liquid-cooled model.

 

[Flyboy]

It was a Victory. Polaris gave it to Indian. The Polaris guys just smile and say naaahh when you ask them but just look at it. It's a Victory with fake pushrods on the engine. Since all the good stuff they put on Indian could have been put on Victory why not steal the entry level bike and ride the wave of success they were realizing with Indian. They ****ed Victory for the sake of Indian. No doubt about it. It sure as hell doesn't resemble the Scouts of the past but it more than resembles a Victory.

Not to belabor the point, but Victory will benefit from the situation by having a refined and better product. An example is one of the things that I do not like is the fake pushrods and actually that alone would keep me from purchase. Now make it real and yes the second water cooled will be at least cool...