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Discussion in 'Victory General Discussion' started by Zen3, Jun 28, 2020 at 1:33 PM.

  1. Zen3

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    Ok. Prob. Sounds dumb but is a steel frame victory exactly what it says. If so what are the steel frame models? Is there a advantage, disadvantage? What are the other model frames made from? It’s just been something on my mind since I purchased a victory. So if it is a stupid question, just be nice.
     
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    Yes, the steel frame are standard tube frame bikes. Vs. the Cross bikes and Vision that use a cast aluminum.

    Vision
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    Makes sense. Thanks.
     
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    No worries. To say it another way all bikes other than the Cross bikes and Vision are steel frames. I thought that was easier than listing every steel frame.



    I forgot about the Octane. It is kinda a hybrid. Cast front portion with steel tube backbones.
     
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    Why not make them all with the same frame material. Weight? Rigidly?
     
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    Steel tubes welded together to make a frame was the technology used on the original V92C, then the Vegas, and all the derivatives of it that came after it. A sand casting process was developed during the R&D for the Vision. Sand casting isn’t new, but the process and methods for making the Vision’s frame did have to be developed. Since then, every new motorcycle Polaris released, Victory and Indian, used a sand cast aluminum frame*.

    * New motorcycle does not include new variations of an old model. The Kingpin, Hammer, and Jackpot are Vegas variants that predate the Vision. The Highball, Judge, Boardwalk, and Gunner came after the Vision, but they are still a Vegas variant. Different bodywork, different wheels, different seats, but all Vegas underneath, right down to the frame. The Vegas and it’s variants are excellent bikes, the best imo, so even though they developed a new process for new bikes...no need to fix what wasn’t broke.
     
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    I Made a good choice buying my Vegas then. Thanks for the info. Now I get it
     
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    Bob,

    A few years ago at our annual January motorcycle show, I was talking to a rep from a company that converts Goldwings to two front wheel conversions - like the Spyder. Here it'a about a $20K conversion out the door. In our conversation, I mentioned that H-D now has an cast aluminum frame like the Goldwing, CCT and Vision. He said it was part steel and part cast. So are the frames of the CCT and Vision totally cast? And what did he mean about the H-D having what amounts to a hybrid frame? If you happen to know. Thx
     
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    Which Harley has the cast aluminum frame ?
     
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    I can't find a great picture of a Cross bike frame but here's a Vision. Seems all cast to me. A front and rear section.
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    I don’t know about HD's hybrid frame, that’s a new one to me. The Vision and XC have all cast aluminum frames. When the new Indian Chiefs came out they structurally have a cast aluminum frame, with steel tubes bolted to the front of it that act as place holders to bolt things like foot controls to, and keeps a more traditional look. Maybe he was thinking of something like that?
     
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    Here’s an image of the Polaris Indian Chief frame I pulled from google. You can see a resemblance to the Vision frame, but on the front is has places to bolt down Tubes in to. Circled in yellow, those tubes could also be aluminum, but they give the look of traditional steel tubes.
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    Steel frame:

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    No steel, no flex. Works for us.
     
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    The Vic engine is so smooth, it is the frame. Don’t need no stinking rubber mounts like the Milwaukee Vibrator. The ladies still feel the pulse of those 815 cc cylinders throbbing underneath them and between our legs on every stroke, laying the power of torque of rear wheel torture via a long strap of kevlar, laced through a sculptured in hard metal of purpose....

    Whew, I need a cold shower.
     
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