I bought a 2012 CC in January. Need some help to diagnosis slow acceleration (otherwise needs high RPM to up to speed). At a lower speed under 40mph, I need to upshift more often (to the 5th gear) compared to my 2013 Boardwalk. Previous owner had installed the Power Commander V. Stock pipes with baffles removed. Symptoms below:
Poor acceleration from 1st to 3rd gear. Often times I must engage in 4th gear to run the bike only about 30mph to keep the RPM below 2,000.
Strong smell of gas residual, if it's not a burning smell.
Sometimes the bike would hop a little when down shifting between 2nd to 1st gear at 10mph
Today I just noticed at a stoplight, the bike creeps, hops forward with the clutch lever fully pulled in, 1st gear.
Shifting between gears is smooth.
The clutch cable tension seems fine.
Does it sound like slipping clutch? I'm not tech-inclined so have no idea if the Power Commander V would contribute to any of these issues? The oil seems good so I haven't done an oil change and have no clue what oil is in the engine.
First off why do you try to keep it below 2000 rpm? These engines are meant to rev and don't like anything below 2300-2500 rpm's. They don't start making good power until 2700 and their happy zone for fun is over 3k.
You say "clutch cable tension" seems fine, it's not about the tension it's about the slack/play at the lever. You need slack or the clutch won't fully release and grab. If you can't"wiggle" the lever when riding along in gear, the cable is too tight.
Lastly dump the oil and put in the correct 20-40w semi-synthetic JASO MA rated oil.
That 2,700 rpm happy zone relieves my concern but I just feel that the bike is underpowered in 1st to 4th gear. I'll do the oil first and report back. Thanks!
Creeping at a light means adjust cable. You must do this overnight cold. See your manual for this procedure. Next dump that oil if you don't know what's in it. Get some Vic oil ( change kit ) or Spectro 20/40 semi synthetic or Rotella T5. Get a new Wix filter.
Gutted stock exhaust ( no baffles) tells me your low end torque is gone. For this you will want to send that gutted exhaust to @crosscountryla a member here who specializes in taking stock exhaust and making them perform at different sound levels of your choice. While the bike is down and your waiting on your new exhaust to return you can sort thru the other items that are needed to be done. Check battery connections. Clean and tighten with a 10mm wrench. Lube clutch cable.
Have you had any contact with the previous owner or is this a dealer bike ? Find out as much information about it that you can.
Creeping at a light means adjust cable. You must do this overnight cold. See your manual for this procedure. Next dump that oil if you don't know what's in it. Get some Vic oil ( change kit ) or Spectro 20/40 semi synthetic or Rotella T5. Get a new Wix filter.
Gutted stock exhaust ( no baffles) tells me your low end torque is gone. For this you will want to send that gutted exhaust to @crosscountryla a member here who specializes in taking stock exhaust and making them perform at different sound levels of your choice. While the bike is down and your waiting on your new exhaust to return you can sort thru the other items that are needed to be done. Check battery connections. Clean and tighten with a 10mm wrench. Lube clutch cable.
Have you had any contact with the previous owner or is this a dealer bike ? Find out as much information about it that you can.
also, my Vic is extremely happy at 3k cruising rpm. No matter what gear I'm in, my rpms are between 2800-3100 when cruising. These things like to rev. Don't lug it.
The Amsoil 20/40 for victory and Indian should be fine but your title suggest "clutch slipping ". I would take all precautions at this stage of ownership and seriously consider the suggestions here from these members. As a fan of full synthetic oil I will say some Vic clutches just don't like it. Why is yet to be determined but Spectro 20/40 is the best semi synthetic oil engineered for Victory that replaces Victory oil. I don't believe full synthetic creates clutch slippage. I believe it can make that situation show its self sooner "IF" and that's a big IF your cable adjustment is off and your riding / clutch habits are poor. Parading a Victory can also accelerate clutch wear as the fibers/ pads in a Vic clutch are imo small for a these bikes especially the ones that have more HP/TQ.
When I joined this forum I had just acquired a '06 Kingpin, was having an issue with the clutch dragging after it got up to temp. HC posted that he adjusted the clutch after bringing up to operating temp. You don't ride it cold, gave it a try and voila it worked. Been using that method since.
Thanks HC.
That 2,700 rpm happy zone relieves my concern but I just feel that the bike is underpowered in 1st to 4th gear. I'll do the oil first and report back. Thanks!
As others have posted, keep the rpm up. If you're under 60 mph in 4th gear, you found the problem. Operator error. Shift into 5th over 60 mph or so and don't bother with 6th gear unless you're steady at over 80 mph.
Thank you for all of your inputs guys!!! After reading all the comments. I don't think my bike has a slipping clutch. What I think why the bike feels underpowered in 1st to 3rd gear is because the exhaust baffles were removed so that hurts the low-end torque. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Yes open exhaust hurts torque, helps horsepower. Maybe put install different slip ons. Most importantly keep the rpm's up on these motors, I don't shift riding normally until it goes over 3k. Riding spirited over 4k.
Nothing is as smooth as Spectro Golden running through the veins of the 106. I will never use anything else, works best for my bike and it loves it. Shifting is as smooth as a babies butt.
Hello, i'm Alvin just purchase a 2015 CC with just 2,600 miles, have been riding a SB 109r. right now adjusting, I'm learning a lot just by reading everyone post, so thankyou and really appreciate to everyone, will test about 2700 rpm since everyone say rev these bikes up.
Hi, Alvin again any suggestions about nice quality audio, not trying to blast neighborhood but would like at least some descent speakers, Have speakers on saddlebags, invest in some Mutazu slip on, hope they sound better than stock.
Check out Mutazu for speaker lids for your saddle bags. Then get some marine grade 6x9 speakers preferably water proof like Polk MM692 or DB drive WD Moto 6x9. add in a set of DB drive 6.5" speakers in the dash and mount a nice simple 400 watt amp under the fairing. Now of you really want to improve from that set up then a new head unit from Yankphan A member here on the Vog would improve all I just suggested. There is no simple stereo set up You either invest a little or just deal with the stock stuff. $600 to a grand to get speaker lids and speakers alone. Another $300 to $400 for an amp. The head unit around $350. Yep not cheap.
@Alvin Welcome & congrats on finding a very low mile Vic, be careful if is still factory tires, check for dry rot & remember the were prob made in 2014 at newest so prob have gotten hard too. Slicks right on with stereo, is many stereo threads esp in vision section. Ensure clutch is adjusted correctly ( I've found 1/8 -1/4 inch play at lever when bikes hot, cramming the gas in 3 or 4 gear going down highways best ) the cold procedure in manual is a good starting point. The clutch adj is extremely important & even more so if have an EZ pull ( it's a lil cover over arm where cable hooks on by ur left foot ) use good oil & ride. These are fantastic machines that'll hit 100,000 miles ( many with 200 k ) pretty effortlessly with only good routine maintenance. Run quality & or non ethanol gas if you can find it ( none in my area ) but either is ok as long is quality brand. Don't run ur gas tank low often, the pumps cooled by being submerged plus don't wanna suck that dirt in. Post some pics of that bike & enjoy owning a legend
@Alvin My 15 xct had the Matuza slip on's when I bought the bike, they sound great & gets many compliments. When I did the Llyods 505's / filter & Maximus tune I expressed my concerns to Rylan @ TVS because I could not find any dyno info or anyone that had any knowledge of them. To my surprise Rylan said they performed very well, they can get loud at w.o.t but not obnoxious, sounds nice @ cruising speeds & cant beat the price. Is an open baffle design ( I researched the crap outta them b4 choosing my cams) the twist of ur wrists really makes the difference in how loud they are.
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