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While helmet/fork locks have been brought up in a number of threads, I thought I'd start a fresh thread dedicated to this topic.

Personally, when I first purchased my Vision, I spend some time searching for the Helmet Locks only to learn there weren't any. While most helmet locks found on bikes are basically deterrents and not the end all solution, it was one of the few bikes I've owned that did not include them.

One day, when the Vision was in the shop for an oil change, the Dealer loaned me a Vegas to ride to lunch. When I was parked it at the restaurant, I searched for a way to lock the forks...and there was none.

Are these two features something that should be standard equipment on bikes these days?

Comments and opinions welcomed.
 

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I'm surprised that the Vision has no helmet locks especially since it is a touring bike. The Wing had two locks built in.
My next purchase for the Pin will be the helmet locks from Kewl metal.
So my answer is, definitely the Victories should have helmet and fork locks.
 

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Honestly, I don't consider either to be a significant oversight. Most heavyweight motorcycles sold these days do not have helmet locks and fork locks on a 700 lbs motorcycle seen redundant. Especially since I doubt a fork lock every really prevented a theft.

A good wheel lock and the bar end locks for your helmets are perfectly adequate and the cost is chump change if you are so inclined.

Remember the target market, The Other American motorcycle company. They don't have helmet locks and 90% of the people who ride them have never locked the forks (at least 90% of the people I ride with and that includes me).
 

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Yes and yes... But it doesn't end there. There are a few standard features on lesser bikes that would be nice. A sensor on the kickstand so you dont jump off your bike in gear. Fuel cut off if your bike is laid down. A passing light, I miss that the most.
 

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Not too concerned about a helmet lock. ( No, I do use a helmet. I've just found another way to lock it.)

However, I do wish there were at least fork locks if not a more aggressive system. They will not stop a dedicated thief but it will deter the prankster. I would rather have the thing stolen than $1,000 worth of damage I need to repair.
 

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Yes and yes... But it doesn't end there. There are a few standard features on lesser bikes that would be nice. A sensor on the kickstand so you dont jump off your bike in gear. Fuel cut off if your bike is laid down. A passing light, I miss that the most.
As I understand it the side stand neutral safety switch is something that was left off for 2 reasons.
1. It's not required on a bike over a certain size or if the side stand is designed to fold up if left down and no load is on it.
2. Many focus groups by both Victory and Harley have shown the "traditional" rider doesn't want it and equates it to "Jap" bikes, something both companies take to heart.

Honestly, I could go either way on this. I just adapt to whatever the bike requires.

They do have a clutch neutral safety switch to prevent you from starting the bike in gear without the clutch being pulled? I think that's required by law.

There is a tip over sensor that will cut the engine and fuel pump power.

A passing light, that would be nice.
 

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mjw930 said:
dsjr70 said:
Yes and yes... But it doesn't end there. There are a few standard features on lesser bikes that would be nice. A sensor on the kickstand so you dont jump off your bike in gear. Fuel cut off if your bike is laid down. A passing light, I miss that the most.
As I understand it the side stand neutral safety switch is something that was left off for 2 reasons.
1. It's not required on a bike over a certain size or if the side stand is designed to fold up if left down and no load is on it.
2. Many focus groups by both Victory and Harley have shown the "traditional" rider doesn't want it and equates it to "Jap" bikes, something both companies take to heart.

Honestly, I could go either way on this. I just adapt to whatever the bike requires.

They do have a clutch neutral safety switch to prevent you from starting the bike in gear without the clutch being pulled? I think that's required by law.

There is a tip over sensor that will cut the engine and fuel pump power.

A passing light, that would be nice.
I thought the tip over sensor was only on the X-bikes. I do know for a fact it was not on the 08 Vegas Low. The bike kept running on it's side in my driveway until I hit the switch.
 

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No on the fork lock. I have seen to many failures in my time with ignition operated ones, and to many wrecks with remote ones. Seems like every biker I know has a friend named "Forklock"
Helmet locks I also have no need for. Around here if you have it locked they just cut the strap.
What I do believe in is a good insurance policy
 

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you can use a flash to pass(at least my 04 had a flash mode). Helmet locks would be nice as well as either a security system or a disc lock built into the caliper would be really sweet.

None of these are necessities are only deterrents but still would be nice for when you feel the need.

Since my CC doesn't have a fork lock I'll be buying a caliper or disc lock.

There's aftermarket options for helmet locks as well.
 

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dsjr70 said:
mjw930 said:
dsjr70 said:
Yes and yes... But it doesn't end there. There are a few standard features on lesser bikes that would be nice. A sensor on the kickstand so you dont jump off your bike in gear. Fuel cut off if your bike is laid down. A passing light, I miss that the most.
As I understand it the side stand neutral safety switch is something that was left off for 2 reasons.
1. It's not required on a bike over a certain size or if the side stand is designed to fold up if left down and no load is on it.
2. Many focus groups by both Victory and Harley have shown the "traditional" rider doesn't want it and equates it to "Jap" bikes, something both companies take to heart.

Honestly, I could go either way on this. I just adapt to whatever the bike requires.

They do have a clutch neutral safety switch to prevent you from starting the bike in gear without the clutch being pulled? I think that's required by law.

There is a tip over sensor that will cut the engine and fuel pump power.

A passing light, that would be nice.
I thought the tip over sensor was only on the X-bikes. I do know for a fact it was not on the 08 Vegas Low. The bike kept running on it's side in my driveway until I hit the switch.
All the '09 and '10 bikes show it but it's not on the parts list for '08. Looks like something added in '09.

http://parts.polarisind.com/Browse/Browse.asp
 

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I thought the tip over sensor was only on the X-bikes. I do know for a fact it was not on the 08 Vegas Low. The bike kept running on it's side in my driveway until I hit the switch.
The fuel pump sensor was added to Victory's 2009 Cruiser lineup. Check this video around 3:30:
 

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Andy said:
dsjr70 said:
I thought the tip over sensor was only on the X-bikes. I do know for a fact it was not on the 08 Vegas Low. The bike kept running on it's side in my driveway until I hit the switch.
The fuel pump sensor was added to Victory's 2009 Cruiser lineup. Check this video around 3:30:
So it took 10 years to get 15 year old technology? Maybe in 10 more years we can look forward to water inside of an engine...lol
 

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Argg on the kickstand safety feature. I can not count how many times I've ridden off with my stand down. I'm just waiting for the thing to fall off one of these days. I'm always checking it to make sure it's still secure.

My helmet will fit in the tour pack on my KP IF it's empty(Rarely). I do have a cable and the $$Victory leather covered lock I bought because I felt the need to buy something and didn't need anything. I can also run the cable thru the sleeve of my jacket and full face and secure everything when all my bags are loaded up.

I also added $3000 extra coverage on my bike to cover my tour bags, helmet, and GPS, etc. It will be a major inconvenience but at least I can recoup any losses if needed.

I've only used the lock once on the forks. WHAT A PAIN! Just remember to remove the key and you should be ok. (Another good one! I now always say , "Got your key?")

Most helmet locks with a full face only will secure by the strap. All ya gotta do is unbuckle that and its as good as gone.
 

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While helmet/fork locks have been brought up in a number of threads, I thought I'd start a fresh thread dedicated to this topic.

Personally, when I first purchased my Vision, I spend some time searching for the Helmet Locks only to learn there weren't any. While most helmet locks found on bikes are basically deterrents and not the end all solution, it was one of the few bikes I've owned that did not include them.

One day, when the Vision was in the shop for an oil change, the Dealer loaned me a Vegas to ride to lunch. When I was parked it at the restaurant, I searched for a way to lock the forks...and there was none.

Are these two features something that should be standard equipment on bikes these days?

Comments and opinions welcomed.
Would not be on the top of my list. I already had a helmet taken from my 2nd victory so if they want it bad enough they will take it. the bike lock same goes.
 

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As I understand it the side stand neutral safety switch is something that was left off for 2 reasons.
1. It's not required on a bike over a certain size or if the side stand is designed to fold up if left down and no load is on it.
2. Many focus groups by both Victory and Harley have shown the "traditional" rider doesn't want it and equates it to "Jap" bikes, something both companies take to heart.

Honestly, I could go either way on this. I just adapt to whatever the bike requires.

They do have a clutch neutral safety switch to prevent you from starting the bike in gear without the clutch being pulled? I think that's required by law.

There is a tip over sensor that will cut the engine and fuel pump power.

A passing light, that would be nice.
I can't agree with the not wanting to be like a japanese bike...
The Vic motor is a copy of Japanese technology of 30 years ago. They threw in a compensator to be different. And roller rockers....Witch was a mistake.
They don't use that rattle trap compensator on the indian.....
The Indian motor is a little like Harley or Americana but not the Vic motor.
 
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