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That was a tough one to respond to being 32 floors up. I can only imagine the chaos and confusion on the ground.

Im supposed to go in a couple weeks and I think my wife is getting a bulletproof vest and ballistic helmet for her birthday. Lucky for me I already have a spare helmet.

The world is crazy and only getting worse.
 

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50+ dead and hundreds injuried...HORRIBLE.

According to one news report the shooter had AR-15's converted to fire automatically....

"Police found between 11 and 15 weapons in Paddock's hotel room, a law enforcement source told Fox News. The guns found included converted, fully automatic AR-15 style assault rifles with high capacity magazines."

The shooters father was no Boy Scout: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/02/las-vegas-shooters-father-bingo-bruce-lived-colorful-life-crime-and-deception.html
 

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How horrible. After the shock of this wears off I am sure there will be a lot of questions asked. How does someone manage to get 15 rifles and thousands of rounds of ammo into a hotel like this?

Condolences to all that were impacted by this tragedy.
 

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How horrible. After the shock of this wears off I am sure there will be a lot of questions asked. How does someone manage to get 15 rifles and thousands of rounds of ammo into a hotel like this?

Condolences to all that were impacted by this tragedy.
Put them in a bag, on a cart, roll them in.....Nobody really pays any attention.
 

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How horrible. After the shock of this wears off I am sure there will be a lot of questions asked. How does someone manage to get 15 rifles and thousands of rounds of ammo into a hotel like this?

Condolences to all that were impacted by this tragedy.
My first thought would be a golf club case for regular style rifles. But I could easily fit many AR style rifles broken down in a large suitcase.
 

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It's kinda weird right now in Vegas. Very reminiscent of 9/11 on a smaller scale. Like many out here I woke to the news from family and friends checking to see where I was. Lucky for me I was in Lake Tahoe/Reno for street vibrations and got home exhausted at 7pm. My world was not without tragedy in all of this as my ole ladies friend was shot by the gunman in the stomach. She survived her first surgery and is in ICU now. I am proud of all the people first responders and civilians who did everything they had to do right on down to stealing police cars that weren't occupied to get people to hospitals for care. We live in a bubble here so many cameras and so much security you start feeling it's impossible on the strip where so many work and play. We rely on the very people that were the victims and our honored guests coming to town and moving our world along. I know this we will learn from it and no expense will be spared to make everybody feel safe in our city.
 

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My first thought would be a golf club case for regular style rifles. But I could easily fit many AR style rifles broken down in a large suitcase.
I suppose you are right. So where does that leave us? How do you stop something like this from happening again? Can you? I don't have an answer. I'm pretty sure the anti-gun crowd will have some ideas.
 

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50+ dead and hundreds injuried...HORRIBLE.

According to one news report the shooter had AR-15's converted to fire automatically....

"Police found between 11 and 15 weapons in Paddock's hotel room, a law enforcement source told Fox News. The guns found included converted, fully automatic AR-15 style assault rifles with high capacity magazines."

The shooters father was no Boy Scout: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/02/las-vegas-shooters-father-bingo-bruce-lived-colorful-life-crime-and-deception.html
That in itself is suspicious to me as to the message. Not trying to get ahead of the investigation or if it will get any answers to motive. But anyone involved in tactics has to question the rational of a (now 2) dozen weapons.

Just doesn't fit any logic for even an amateur and leads to additional questions as to why so many for a job that can be executed by one or two.

Just strange. Leaves a question similiar to the last crazy white guy and the attack on GOP Congressman as to WTH...
 

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I suppose you are right. So where does that leave us? How do you stop something like this from happening again? Can you? I don't have an answer. I'm pretty sure the anti-gun crowd will have some ideas.
In a word....No.

Where there is a will there's a way. If someone wants to kill a crowd of people there are plenty of ways to do it without a gun. The big trend is vehicles.

Being a LEO that always plays the "what if" game I fear an attack with a vehicle in a crowd.

As to this nut in Vegas I'm sure he had some issues. It seems he took the cowards way out so we may never fully understand.
 

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Not trying to get ahead of the investigation or if it will get any answers to motive. But anyone involved in tactics has to question the rational of a dozen weapons.

Just doesn't fit any logic for even an amateur and leads to additional questions as to why so many for a job that can be executed by one or two.
I agree, it doesn't make any sense to "normal" guys like you and I that are not willing to commit mass murder. So to try and make sense of a room filled with weapons and ammo with only a single person to wield those weapons is likely something that may never make sense to us. However, if the investigation is on the up and up, some day within the next year or hopefully less, we should see video of him or someone taking things into the room. Additionally there may be logs of when he/someone swiped their hotel key to gain entry into that room. Pair that up with the video surveillance and it should become clear if others were involved and how many trips it took to get everything staged in the room. The guy was only there for 3 or 4 days and this just went down so all of the video should be there. IF AND WHEN none of this is ever released to the public then one can only speculate as to why that may be and what really happened.

What a horrific tragedy. My thoughts and prayers are with the families of the victims and those investigating this mass murder.
 

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It's one thing to get a semi-automatic to fire full auto; it's another matter all together to get that modified rifle to fire a large amount of ammo in a continuous auto mode. Parts foul and gall, cause the mechanism to jam or seize altogether. Perhaps that was why he had a plethora of modified semi-autos. The AR platform is a wonderful design for a lot of things; accurate cold bore gun; superior 3 round burst gun; capable full auto for 30 round sessions. Perhaps it isn't "all that" for 150 round full auto use. AK's are known for being able to fire full auto in a constant long burst because of their "lose" tolerances; that's why you can't hardly hit the side of a barn with one.

I do think he had plans of a rather long standoff as he had the ammo necessary for having one. Fortunately, he wasn't able to pull that off.

Just some random thoughts.
 

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I agree, it doesn't make any sense to "normal" guys like you and I that are not willing to commit mass murder. So to try and make sense of a room filled with weapons and ammo with only a single person to wield those weapons is likely something that may never make sense to us. However, if the investigation is on the up and up, some day within the next year or hopefully less, we should see video of him or someone taking things into the room. Additionally there may be logs of when he/someone swiped their hotel key to gain entry into that room. Pair that up with the video surveillance and it should become clear if others were involved and how many trips it took to get everything staged in the room. The guy was only there for 3 or 4 days and this just went down so all of the video should be there. IF AND WHEN none of this is ever released to the public then one can only speculate as to why that may be and what really happened.

What a horrific tragedy. My thoughts and prayers are with the families of the victims and those investigating this mass murder.
I agree, however he wasn't an average person of intelligence and fancied himself a gambler and it is being revealed placed large losing bets. Now the weapon count in the room is over 23 and 18 back at his house and I am not inferring he wasn't alone. I believe he most likely was.

It was reported his Father had the dubious honor to have made the FBI's Top Ten and the term socialpath was mentioned. I agree to letting the investigation play out and from past work in the field, just find the amount of weapons strange. Not sure if was or wasn't an attempt to make a statement and will with the anti-gun club, regardless.

Guess we will see in the following days as the facts come to light. As it is extreme speculation in these troubling days.

I wish the best for those that survived and the families of those that didn't.

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5 things to know about Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock
October 2 2017 | PoliceOne Staff Originals

By PoliceOne Staff

At least 58 people are dead and over 500 others wounded after a gunman, 64-year-old Stephen Paddock, opened fire on a country music festival Sunday from the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino in Las Vegas. Police later found Paddock, described as a "lone wolf," dead in the room. Here are five things to know about the perpetrator of the worst mass shooting in modern U.S. history.

1. Paddock was a local and not well known to police.
Paddock lived in Mesquite, a quiet retirement community dotted with golf courses and casinos about 80 miles from Las Vegas. Mesquite police did not know Paddock, and the LVMPD police said they only had a record of a traffic stop for a minor violation.

2. Paddock's family described him as a 'quiet guy.'
Paddock's brother, Eric, described Stephen as "just a guy" who gambled and "ate burritos." He was reportedly a retired accountant and "had enough money to live the rest of his life in comfort." Eric also said Paddock had no military background. In the '80s, he briefly worked for a "predecessor" company to Lockheed Martin. His father was reportedly on the FBI's Top Ten Most Wanted list for bank robberies.

Paddock, who checked into the hotel on Thursday, reportedly made several large gambling transactions in the weeks prior to the shooting. It is not clear if Paddock won money from those transactions. In 2012, he sued Cosmopolitan Hotels & Resorts Inc. in Las Vegas for negligence. The case was later dropped.

The suspect also had a private pilot's license.

3. Police cleared Paddock's 'companion' in the case.
In the wake of the shooting, police were searching for a person of interest, Marilou Danley, described as Paddock's "companion." She was reportedly Paddock's roommate in Mesquite. Police later located her overseas in the Philippines and do not believe she was involved in the incident.

4. Did Paddock alter his weapons?
Police found guns and ammunition in Paddock's home. Police recovered at least 10 firearms from the hotel room where he carried out the attack - including .223 caliber and .308 caliber weapons investigators believe Paddock purchased illegally. Police suspect the guns were altered to fire more rapidly.

Some experts say the inconsistent pattern of gunfire captured in footage of the attack does suggest the guns were modified - possibly via a "trigger crank" or "bump stock."

5. ISIS claimed responsibility for the attack, but the FBI says there is no known international terror connection.
The Islamic State was quick to claim responsibility for the attack. The terrorist group called Paddock "a soldier" who converted to Islam months ago, but provided no evidence.

The FBI refuted the claim, saying investigators had not found any connection to an international terrorist group.

ISIS has falsely claimed responsibility for mass casualty attacks before.
 

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You know, something here just isn't adding up for me. Paddock's SO, Marilou Danley, is a native Australian and had gone to the Philippines just ahead of his attack. Given that the majority religious group in the Philippines is muslim, and no one has said that she was visiting family or friends over there, I've got a silent alarm going off in the back of my mind. It may be nothing, but they sure dismissed her from having any involvement in an extremely quick manner, considering that they had to locate her and then go through the Philippine authorities to detain and question her. Just seems way to coincidental to me.
 

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I don't even want to watch news anymore. If it's not terrorist loosers, child molesters,, rapists, walter mitty i'll show them mass murders, its polotitions dragging countries to war.
The world has gone crazy, we respect and honour first responders as well as ordinary folks who respond heroically but in the end just wring our hands in sadness and despare not able to change the senseless inhumanity.
My prayers go out to the familirs of the victems of this axxhole, but I'm also sure there is some basterd planning to best his score just to make the news.
 

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You know, something here just isn't adding up for me. Paddock's SO, Marilou Danley, is a native Australian and had gone to the Philippines just ahead of his attack. Given that the majority religious group in the Philippines is muslim, and no one has said that she was visiting family or friends over there, I've got a silent alarm going off in the back of my mind. It may be nothing, but they sure dismissed her from having any involvement in an extremely quick manner, considering that they had to locate her and then go through the Philippine authorities to detain and question her. Just seems way to coincidental to me.
If she is from the Philippines they are 92% Christian.
 
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