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So I pull in too Target to grab some cash from the cash machine. I’m on my indian. I back into a spot and directly across from me is a white Streetglide you know the everyday Harley everyone’s rolling now. As I’m taking off my gloves the owner & his wife girlfriend whatever come walking up to it 35 yrs old at best. So I look their way to nod an acknowledgment of like hey what’s up. He totally ignores me won’t even look in my direction LOL I think ok that’s fine. I go in grab some cash come back out and their still getting ready. slip their Harley vests over their jackets gloves so on. I purposely walk right into their parking space past them looking at them to possibly give the acknowledgment of hey we both ride what’s up LOL nothing wouldn’t even look at me. So me being me stopped and said HEY WOULD YOU ACKNOWLEDGE ME IF I WAS ON MY HARLEY ? I shook my head got on my bike thinking Jesus I’ve been doing this $hit longer then you’ve been around boy. I wanted to slap him and say your the reason people look at Harley riders like they do ! Your really not all that cool believe me !
 

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I hear ya. Its why I'm here.....couldn't for the life of me spend $10k on a 1999 Fatboy with marginal performance and 30k miles on the clock. My friends have Harleys, but I chose not to. We still all ride together, and don't discriminate unless it's a Spyder or worse yet, a Slingshot. We're all on two wheels struggling against the 'cagers', so its a kinship, and you wave or nod. Different times....

Sometime feel like I should be yelling at the kids to "Stay off my lawn". I suspect that's whats next, now that I yell at the TV.
 

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So I pull in too Target to grab some cash from the cash machine. I'm on my indian. I back into a spot and directly across from me is a white Streetglide you know the everyday Harley everyone's rolling now. As I'm taking off my gloves the owner & his wife girlfriend whatever come walking up to it 35 yrs old at best. So I look their way to nod an acknowledgment of like hey what's up. He totally ignores me won't even look in my direction LOL I think ok that's fine. I go in grab some cash come back out and their still getting ready. slip their Harley vests over their jackets gloves so on. I purposely walk right into their parking space past them looking at them to possibly give the acknowledgment of hey we both ride what's up LOL nothing wouldn't even look at me. So me being me stopped and said HEY WOULD YOU ACKNOWLEDGE ME IF I WAS ON MY HARLEY ? I shook my head got on my bike thinking Jesus I've been doing this $hit longer then you've been around boy. I wanted to slap him and say your the reason people look at Harley riders like they do ! Your really not all that cool believe me !
I've ran into a few of those jerkoffs before.
 

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Yup, everytime I see a Slingshot I get can't help but bad feelings!
Esp older people trying to get in or out of one, damn they awful
 

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So I pull in too Target to grab some cash from the cash machine. I'm on my indian. I back into a spot and directly across from me is a white Streetglide you know the everyday Harley everyone's rolling now. As I'm taking off my gloves the owner & his wife girlfriend whatever come walking up to it 35 yrs old at best. So I look their way to nod an acknowledgment of like hey what's up. He totally ignores me won't even look in my direction LOL I think ok that's fine. I go in grab some cash come back out and their still getting ready. slip their Harley vests over their jackets gloves so on. I purposely walk right into their parking space past them looking at them to possibly give the acknowledgment of hey we both ride what's up LOL nothing wouldn't even look at me. So me being me stopped and said HEY WOULD YOU ACKNOWLEDGE ME IF I WAS ON MY HARLEY ? I shook my head got on my bike thinking Jesus I've been doing this $hit longer then you've been around boy. I wanted to slap him and say your the reason people look at Harley riders like they do ! Your really not all that cool believe me !
I feel you Mike. Anymore I don't even acknowledge. I wait for them to acknowledge first. Especially the younger look at me crowd. Don't care what they ride. If they do then I'm friendly. If not then I didn't waste a fukin moment worrying about it.
 

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I just moved back to pinellas county, Madeira beach. This is how all Harley riders are here. Its so funny!!! when they see me coming, their heads snap to the left or right so fast and they refuse to look at me!!! They will ride with their heads sideways down the road if they are next to me. Pathetic babies they are. I just laugh as i pull away. I will say, its not just Harleys doing it. I got snubbed by a Can Am the other day as well! A feckin Can Am!!!
 

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So I pull in too Target to grab some cash from the cash machine. I'm on my indian. I back into a spot and directly across from me is a white Streetglide you know the everyday Harley everyone's rolling now. As I'm taking off my gloves the owner & his wife girlfriend whatever come walking up to it 35 yrs old at best. So I look their way to nod an acknowledgment of like hey what's up. He totally ignores me won't even look in my direction LOL I think ok that's fine. I go in grab some cash come back out and their still getting ready. slip their Harley vests over their jackets gloves so on. I purposely walk right into their parking space past them looking at them to possibly give the acknowledgment of hey we both ride what's up LOL nothing wouldn't even look at me. So me being me stopped and said HEY WOULD YOU ACKNOWLEDGE ME IF I WAS ON MY HARLEY ? I shook my head got on my bike thinking Jesus I've been doing this $hit longer then you've been around boy. I wanted to slap him and say your the reason people look at Harley riders like they do ! Your really not all that cool believe me !
Speaking of the cool factor. I remember taking part in a charity ride a few years back. I was actually on my Dad's Victory XC, because I was home visiting in my cage for whatever reason. I'm always looked down upon by "Harley Weekend Warriors" while on the Vic. Anyhow as we are all waiting to take off on the group ride one of these HWWs nearly drops his low mileage pretty street glide while trying to get it off the kickstand. The woman he had on the back ended up keeping his bike from falling. Me and two old timers that I had just meet that day busted out laughing and avoid that motorcycle for the rest of the day (I think he actually did drop it another stop). The old timers didn't care what brand of motorcycle I had; hell one of them said he is tempted to steal the Vic. These HWWs are a walking a joke; from how they dress to how they talk.
 

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Well I guess we can all say we have seen non riders on just about all brands but nothing like we see on HD. No wonder the HD die hards have such attitudes. It’s like the posers are invading their life style. Hell I’ve seen HD riders treat posers with dis respect because they felt they should be on Honda’s. Well everyone wants a HD man ….. c’mon now gitch ya one.
 
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Hmm, really have seen that and I know I told this story before, but it was a good one. Back when I used to go Starbucks, I met up with another Vic rider (former HD rider too).

While enjoying our coffees a HD Rider parks next to the Vics and the Bike was a beauty, being a custom to boot. A Gentleman and his Lady walk up and complimented the Victory’s while starting in the door. The HD Rider now sitting with us, pipes up “What about my Bike?”

Without missing a beat the Gentleman responded, “Harleys are ****, I have owned two and both were POS…”.

I damn near blew my coffee out my nose. I smiled at the HD Rider and “Well, you asked for it..”
 

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Yeah but it’s a Harley.
 
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All this reminds me of this story I told long ago and ended up with one guy feeling I needed to give him roadside riding lessons or something.

"So here is the scene. I'm filling up my truck at the gas station while a couple on a motorcycle is grabbing some drinks inside. It appeared to be a very nice new bike with every chrome piece available slapped on, it was really customized. Neither one had any gear, not even a helmet. They mount up and start to pullout just before me after stalling it a few times in the lot. He slides his feet all the way through the parking lot and about 20 yards down the street to the stop sign.
Im now behind him at the stop sign and we are both going to make a left turn. We are turning onto a street that has three lanes going east and three lanes going west with a median that is two lanes wide, so we have 8 lanes of space available. He slowly pulls out with his left leg still sliding on the ground. He stops in the median area and then pulls into the middle lane going east. I pull out behind him and seeing how he is riding and figuring he is new I am going super slow in the left hand lane to let him have his space. He slowly drives to the next break in the medium and starts to creep into a left turn from the middle lane. He turns from that middle lane through the median and into the west bound lanes ending up again in the middle lane. He took six lanes to complete a U-TURN!!! From what I saw it appeared he could not make the right turn at the stop sign so he went the other direction to make the huge uturn to head the direction he really wanted to travel.
It floored me. I know we all started new at some point but to be out on the streets riding two up when you can not make a simple right turn is just irresponsible.I just don't get what he was thinking. Certainly he is going to end up on a road without the amount of room he needs to turn so what does he do then? A three point turn? In traffic? Then he adds his girl into the mix. I just really couldnt believe it. Lucky for him I'm a rider and was able to read him pretty well. If I had been driving in a regular fashion or a person with no motorcycle experience was behind him I'm not so sure it would have gone so well.
At what point do you have to be honest with yourself and fess up that you need a class or at least a buddy in a parking lot to get some of the basics? I have seen some pretty bad riders but this was by far the most unsafe rider I have ever seen. I hope they made it home safe."


From this thread, 6 Lane U-Turn!!!

If you go to the old thread in the quotes you will see a KingpinBulldog. That is me before a change in the VOG.
 

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All this reminds me of this story I told long ago and ended up with one guy feeling I needed to give him roadside riding lessons or something.

"So here is the scene. I'm filling up my truck at the gas station while a couple on a motorcycle is grabbing some drinks inside. It appeared to be a very nice new bike with every chrome piece available slapped on, it was really customized. Neither one had any gear, not even a helmet. They mount up and start to pullout just before me after stalling it a few times in the lot. He slides his feet all the way through the parking lot and about 20 yards down the street to the stop sign.
Im now behind him at the stop sign and we are both going to make a left turn. We are turning onto a street that has three lanes going east and three lanes going west with a median that is two lanes wide, so we have 8 lanes of space available. He slowly pulls out with his left leg still sliding on the ground. He stops in the median area and then pulls into the middle lane going east. I pull out behind him and seeing how he is riding and figuring he is new I am going super slow in the left hand lane to let him have his space. He slowly drives to the next break in the medium and starts to creep into a left turn from the middle lane. He turns from that middle lane through the median and into the west bound lanes ending up again in the middle lane. He took six lanes to complete a U-TURN!!! From what I saw it appeared he could not make the right turn at the stop sign so he went the other direction to make the huge uturn to head the direction he really wanted to travel.
It floored me. I know we all started new at some point but to be out on the streets riding two up when you can not make a simple right turn is just irresponsible.I just don't get what he was thinking. Certainly he is going to end up on a road without the amount of room he needs to turn so what does he do then? A three point turn? In traffic? Then he adds his girl into the mix. I just really couldnt believe it. Lucky for him I'm a rider and was able to read him pretty well. If I had been driving in a regular fashion or a person with no motorcycle experience was behind him I'm not so sure it would have gone so well.
At what point do you have to be honest with yourself and fess up that you need a class or at least a buddy in a parking lot to get some of the basics? I have seen some pretty bad riders but this was by far the most unsafe rider I have ever seen. I hope they made it home safe."


From this thread, 6 Lane U-Turn!!!

If you go to the old thread in the quotes you will see a KingpinBulldog. That is me before a change in the VOG.
I haven't seen it often, but enough to wonder why someone thinks they can jump on a 900 pound motorcycle at 50 yoa and think it is a wise move. Now many on this Site do what can be seen as risky and/or challenging activities, but we started a ways back and managed to survive enough to get efficient with the activity.

That is alot of Bike to jump on after a few lessons on one half the weight and power. Sure I did it at 16 yoa, but I had been riding for over three years by then and still scared the crap out of myself a couple times. Very few can start out with that much Bike and not have a bad experience or two... Riding two up has never been an issue unless I haven't briefed the passenger correctly. Or she isn't holding on tight enough that I can feel the warmth of her...

Wrong thread for that thought
 

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I haven't seen it often, but enough to wonder why someone thinks they can jump on a 900 pound motorcycle at 50 yoa and think it is a wise move. Now many on this Site do what can be seen as risky and/or challenging activities, but we started a ways back and managed to survive enough to get efficient with the activity.

That is alot of Bike to jump on after a few lessons on one half the weight and power. Sure I did it at 16 yoa, but I had been riding for over three years by then and still scared the crap out of myself a couple times. Very few can start out with that much Bike and not have a bad experience or two... Riding two up has never been an issue unless I haven't briefed the passenger correctly. Or she isn't holding on tight enough that I can feel the warmth of her... Wrong thread for that thought
I agree. I started on a Sportster and my second bike was a Road King. I actually found the RK easier to ride but I was young and strong. It's weight was never an issue plus I took a motors class.

Even still I didn't let my wife join until I had a few years experience and I got my Kingpin Tour.
 
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The road king was always known as the easiest HD to ride. I’ve seen motor cops do a U turn on 1 lane roads to pursue a speeder going the other way and do that U turn extremely quick in a slide out type fashion. I was amazed and glad I was behind that motor cop when he did it. Giving him the space he needed. That showed me two things. Motorcycle training for motor cops teaches amazing skills and Harley RKings are very capable bikes in the handling dept. I’ve ridden a few R Kings and thought the same but the Indian Springfield to me is a better ride.
 
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