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  1. Trout

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    After rethinking the hi mileage castrol I dumped it at 3k miles and now have Rotella T6.

    I was not considering the fact that the engine oil is also the gear box lube & those Vic Straight cut gears would be very hard on the oil.

    Thanks slickvic
     
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    Close but the T5 is the correct one to use.
     
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    He’s getting there.
     
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    I’m still a lil mindfuked that most synthetic blended oil only contains about 10% synthetic oil within it. The old ass-u-me saying comes to mind. Instead of my 50/50 mix am gonna go to the 3 to 1.25 ratio next change just for giggles to C if can tell any difference. Gotta admit the bike shifts really nice mixing 50/50
     
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    Rotella T6 works perfectly, has the correct JASO MA/JASO MA 2 rating and is a full synthetic. No problem whatsoever using Shell Rotella T6 in our Victorys.

    Yes, it was designed for diesel engines and also yes, it's perfectly suited for our wet clutch motorcycles. Many manufacturers products are suited to perform more than one function.

    Having the JASO MA /JASO MA 2 rating is the key. That means the oil is suited for our wet clutch motorcycles.

    If paying over $10 per quart for 15W-40 'motorcycle specific' oil suits you, fantastic. That's an expensive label on that quart, no wonder you're pleased with your purchase.

    If paying $20 for a gallon of 15W-40 Shell Rotella T6 at Walmart suits you, congratulations, you passed the test.
     
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    The spec calls for semi-synthetic, some get clutch slippage with full-synthetic. The T5 is a blend of T4 and T6 which are both JASO MA rated and tested. Shell reps have come out and said T5 will pass the testing but they are unwilling to pay for it to satisfy a niche market. My clutch grabs better with T5 than it does with the Vic oil.
     
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    Yes this ..... and it’s true but I can’t say my clutch grabs better with T5 because I don’t use it. But Spectro 20/40 semi synthetic ?????? Oh yeah that oil grabs.
     
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    Rotella 15-40 T6 for all my bikes. Never a engine failure, never a clutch slip. 38k on the Vic, 32k on the Tenere, 40k on the Buell. Change them all at 3k unless I’m on a road trip then I’ve gone 5-6k.
     
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    I e got about 2k on the t6 no clutch slippage n engine is quiet. Going to start using it in all the Guzzis also which are dry clutches.
     
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    I have run T6 for way over 100,000 miles in 3 Victorys.
    Excellent oil.

    My Indians call for a higher viscosity, so I haven't used it in them.
     
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    Just when you thought I wasn’t going to respond to the Rotella crowd. So let’s look at especially the T5 which has a robust package of additives. Notice the moly content compared to the others ? Hmmmm ....
    Then look at the Boron count. Not sure what this means to a motorcycle with a wet clutch but there is a distinct difference between the chosen 2 Rotellas that are widely used here. 15/40 T6 full syn and 15/40 T5 semi syn. Just something to help you make a choice although I’m not sure which is the better for your Victory oil since the additive package is different.
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    @slickvic need some of that OIL on your keys..............................................................................:crackup:
     
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    Molybdenum Disulfide is a friction modifier. It’s a graphite filler material that bonds with surfaces to make a hard wear coating. Ever get powdered graphite on your fingers and try to get it off? It fills in all the microscopic pores in the steel and your clutch.

    Probably why it’s not JASO rated.

    Back in the late 70’s and early 80’s ARCO came out with a engine oil labeled as Graphite and it had a very high Moly content. A friend of mine bought a new Yamaha XS11 in 1982 and took a road trip to Montana a few months later. He changed his oil with the ARCO high Moly and ended up riding back from Montana in only 3rd and 4th gears because the clutch slipped so bad.
     
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    That's very interesting. That kind of blows the theory that t5 would be the same as mixing the other 2 together.
     
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