[mjw930]

I tried this system and decided to go with the Scorpio 900i

It is wireless, has motion, bump, proximity sensors and will allow you walk away or approach your bike to operate. You still require a key to start the bike, open or lock gas door, open or lock glove box and most importantly, lock the steering head.

So, why not go keyless? Because, all the above applies to the keyless security systems as well, you still need your key.

You need a key to lock your steering head. If you don't lock it, you leave your bike much more suceptible to theft via lifting to a van, etc. So whenever it is parked you still require a key. The trick with the Scorpio is that it works without using any buttons, just being close to your bike disarms and being further away arms your bike. Why is that better? You still require a key, so why not install the only system that Victory dealers across the US agree to be the best, with fewer falses, few returns, and high quality.

Just a thought

Where so you get that line of BS from? I don't think Victory dealers agree on much and certainly not on security system as most can't even spell Scorpio.

Where you missed out here is when you talk about not having to push a button. The DGD is an RFID proximity device. That means all you need to do is get it withing 10 feet of the bike and the security system (relay) deactivates. Walk away from the bike and after 20 seconds of the RFID transmitter being out of range the system activates. There is no simpler system on the market than the DGD.

Sure, you need the key for lots of other things so going to their full keyless system is a waste of money IMHO but their basic security system is easily as secure as the Scorpio or any other ignition cutout device and in fact, since it replaced the main system relay it's impervious to hot wiring which your Scorpio isn't.

You may like the Scorpio better but don't try to feed us lines about it being better or more accepted, it's simply different.

 

[ness178]

Thx for your input 930. Always good to hear from another VV rider. The Scorpio 900i does arm and disarm exactly the same as your preferred system. No button to push unless you wish to arm or disarm manually.

You are correct that it is just another alarm, they all are. Don't take it so personally, no harm intended, just passing on the info I have experienced and been told by 9 dealers so far.

Enjoy your ride!

 

[BreadmanRo]

I tried this system and decided to go with the Scorpio 900i

Ness,
I just orderd the Scorpio 900i for my 10' Vision. I hope it gets here this week. Do you have any install tips that will make it easier to install? I did order the OEM coinnector for it.

 

[ness178]

I had a dealer install it Breadman. Took a couple of hours, he really appreciated the specific harness which makes it easier. I did not install the ride away/hi-jack module and am sending it back. The idea of a small black module being able to suddenly stop the motor when running is too much for me. I can just see myself in a difficult situation with no power because of an electrical glitch. Having never been knocked off my bike and had it hi-jacked I am happier without this option.

You may feel more adventurous however.

Good luck, you will love the Scorpio, it has no problem doing exactly what it says it will do and not having to push buttons to arm, etc. is great as is the range of the remote.

Cheers

"Shiny side up"!

 

[BreadmanRo]

Thanks Ness. I just got the email, it will be here next Monday. I was able to download the instructions yesteday and it looks pretty straight forward. Although I am a rookie at this kind of stuff. Hopefully it will go well.
Thanks,

 

[slyone72]

Does it open the gas tank? Guess you still got to use the key for something....

kewlmetal i think makes a keyless gas cap- it screws in then you give it a small push and twist to secure it flat im buying one

 

[ness178]

How did it go?

 

[americanv2]

I took the handyman's inexpensive approach. After riding keyless on Harley's for so many years, and noticing the scratches on my Vision center console from the previous owner's keys, I simply wired a Radio Shack switch across the 4 wires of the ignition switch. Total cost, about $2.

I mounted a double-pole, double-throw, center-off (DPDT-CO) miniature toggle switch in the metal bracket behind the right cheese-wedge. The switch is hidden by the wedge but easy to operate if you know where it is. Run 4 conductor wire up to the ignition switch. The switch is down for accessory, center off, and up for ignition on. Now I use the key only for security locking and opening the gas door. SO much more convienent !

Be careful when drilling the 1/4" hole in the metal bracket for the switch, that your drill bit doesn't go too far into the fuel injector wiring. There is just enough room behind that bracket for the switch.

The wiring is pretty simple. One pair of wires on the ignition switch is ACC, and the other pair is IGN. For the bike to run, you need to close both the ACC and the IGN circuits.

 

[ness178]

Great idea Mark! I had no idea.... Next time I won't spend a few hundred $ when so little can do.

Thx for the update.

Cheers