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  1. Andy

    Andy Administrator Staff Member Moderator

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    Press Release:
    Aug. 7, 2012
    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
    Federal officials mandating minimum four-gallon gasoline purchase from certain ethanol-blend pumps
    PICKERINGTON, Ohio -- The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency will require all consumers to buy at least four gallons of gasoline from certain gas pumps after the new E15 ethanol-gasoline blend is introduced into the market, the American Motorcyclist Association reports.
    The EPA revealed the requirement to the AMA in a letter dated Aug. 1, responding to AMA concerns that E15 -- a gasoline formulation that contains up to 15 percent ethanol by volume -- could be put in motorcycle and ATV gas tanks inadvertently when consumers use blender pumps. A blender pump dispenses different fuel blends through the same hose, and the vast majority of motorcycles and all-terrain vehicles in use today aren't designed to operate on E15 fuel.
    "With E15 gasoline, our members who make a concerted effort to fuel their motorcycles or ATVs with E10-or-less gasoline may be unknowingly refueling with residual fuel left in the hose," Wayne Allard, AMA vice president for government relations, wrote in a June 20 letter to EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson.
    "Unlike an automobile or SUV that has a large fuel tank, the residual fuel left in a fueling hose could be detrimental to the performance of motorcycle or ATV engines due to the small size of their fuel tanks and the higher concentration of ethanol that would, therefore, be present in the fuel," Allard wrote.
    "In addition, the use of E15 will lower fuel efficiency and possibly cause premature engine failure," he wrote. "Use of E15 fuel voids many manufacturer warranties. In off-road engines, the effects can even be dangerous for users."
    Byron Bunker of the EPA National Vehicle and Fuel Emissions Laboratory responded to the AMA on behalf of Jackson.
    "EPA requires that retail stations that own or operate blender pumps either dispense E15 from a dedicated hose and nozzle if able or, in the case of E15 and E10 being dispensed from the same hose, require that at least four gallons of fuel be purchased to prevent vehicles and engines with smaller fuel tanks from being exposed to gasoline-ethanol blended fuels containing greater than 10 volume percent ethanol," Bunker wrote.
    "Additionally, EPA is requiring that retail stations that offer E10 and E15 from the same hose and nozzle use additional labeling to inform consumers about the minimum purchase requirement," Bunker wrote.
    "Since motorcyclists and ATV users, as you suggest, have relatively small fuel tanks, they should pay careful attention to the labeling of blender pumps to ensure that an appropriate fuel is chosen, in this case E10 or E0," he wrote.Another problem with the new EPA policy, Allard said, is that not all motorcycle and ATV gas tanks hold four or more gallons.
    "Not only do we find it unacceptable for the EPA to mandate that everyone -- including our members -- buy minimum amounts of gas, but the EPA answer simply won't work because of the sizes of many motorcycle and ATV gas tanks and the fact that off-highway riders take containers of gas with them on their trips, and most times those containers are much smaller than four gallons," Allard said.
    "The EPA needs to come up with a better solution," he said. "The EPA also needs to back an independent study to determine whether E15 is safe for motorcycle and ATV engines."
    The AMA has repeatedly expressed concerns to government officials and federal lawmakers about possible damage to motorcycle and ATV engines caused by the inadvertent use of E15 when the new fuel becomes widely available, and has asked that motorcycles and ATVs be part of any scientific study into the effects of E15.
    Ethanol is essentially grain alcohol produced from crops such as corn that is mixed with gasoline to produce an ethanol-gasoline blend motor fuel. In October 2010, the EPA approved the use of E15 in model year 2007 and newer light-duty vehicles (cars, light-duty trucks and medium-duty passenger vehicles). Then, in January 2011, the EPA added model year 2001-06 light-duty vehicles to the approved list.
    No motorcycles or ATVs are currently on the list.
     
  2. bikendad

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    Here's one guy that won't be going to stations that pump this garbage thru the same hose!
     
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    There needs to be a dedicated E-15 fuel hose and nozzle just like we already have for diesel.
    With the reduced harvest of corn crops this year due to climate change, I don't think there's going to be a big push to burn more corn in our internal combustion engines. Some Senators are trying to get the EPA to cut it's target for ethanol by 50%.
     
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    EPA and Ms Jackson,.,,,,, A F**ng Joke. A one finger salute to the EPA, Ms Jackson, Pres Obama and the entire government bureaucracy. The EPA needs to be dismantled the congress makes laws NOT the EPA, well they're suppose to.
     
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    Holy frak! That's the solution ? Purchase 4 gallons as a minimum? Ok, as long as nobody complains about me spilling the first gallon on the ground to "clear out" the e15 garbage. That's retarded...
     
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    Or the last Gallon when filling my 2gal can for my mower.
     
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    I have an better idea. FIRE the idiots running the EPA! They are killing businesses with stupid regs like this. Now they seem totally ambivelant to the damage they will be doing to our property (Motorcycles).
    Fire this administration in November. They are responsible for this kind of foolishness. And this is just one small example of it.
    Mayberry
     
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    Maybe I am missing something, but this has to rank as the dumbest idea I have ever heard of. Government BS at its finest.
     
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    How does it compare to the US govt paying people to study the size of moose testicles in sunlight vs shade? We've done that too.
     
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    You haven't been paying attention. [​IMG]
     
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    I can't resist this Biggie... [​IMG] but, I should have known you would find something you like from this government bureaucracy mandating this dumb regulation on the American public. You're a smart guy, so just think about the increased cost to businesses to install a whole new infrastructure of gas dispensing systems (pumps, hoses, tanks, etc...) to comply with this. And we the consumers will pay for it in higher prices. It's NUTS!!! Cliff, I can't believe as a libertarian you liked Biggie's post.... LOL
     
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    Ethanol is crap gas. The only reason we have it is because of lobbyists trying to drive up corn prices. Your return on investment is horrendous if you actually do the math on cost vs mileage.....but since when has there been an intelligent person in America that knows how to do math? We get what we deserve....which is more Government regulation and a crappier product in return.....and this is coming from a guy who grew up in the HEART of America's corn Country.
    Thank GOODNESS we don't have that garbage out here. All you Midwesterners can blow up your motors for supporting corn based ethanol.
     
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    lets see now, the new pump would look something like this;
    one nozzle for E15
    one nozzle for E85
    one nozzle for Diesel
    one nozzle for Kero
    one for 87
    one for 89
    one for 93
    HOLY CRAP, its like a lotto selection machine [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    Don't forget CNG and Propane. You cant people using clean burning fuels use a pump around back and feeling like lesser motorists.
     
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    silly me... [​IMG] ur absolutely right!! Now the question is; what rich foreign SOB is going to be the first to build one of these mega stations AND whatch us IDIOT americans waste our $$ on his "charge whatever" price plan [​IMG]
     

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