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(Natural News) Up until December 2019, the official government definition for the word "vaccine" did notinclude the mRNA (messenger RNA) technology that is now being injected into people's bodies for the Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19). That changed, though, just weeks before the first "cases" of the Chinese Virus appeared on American soil.

Just in time for "Operation Warp Speed," the United States Congress quietly redefined the word "vaccine" to include the drug injections that would soon be unveiled by Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna - almost like they knew well in advance that a plandemic was coming.

 

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Really? Did they ask you? They didn't ask me. Who did they ask? Where did they ask?

Polls can tell whatever part of the truth you desire with the right polling pool being used.

What if the government mandates people be healthy and charge those with high BMIs? It's a health issue that would prevent hospitalization for many like I've seen mentioned so many times for people with covid. So why not? It's for your health? How bout if you have a high BMI you are forced to eat only salad until you are a healthy weight? When are we going to mandate a ban on smoking?

People being overweight and smoking is hurting them much more than I ever will not being vaxed.

I don't see how you can be for one part of health for the greater good and not be for health in everything.

People being obese, with diabetes and smoking kill far more than covid and we are not suppose to fat shame these poor overeating out of shape souls; and I don't. But if you don't get a vaccine your fired??? If that doesn't make you think twice about what you just read you shouldn't continue down that road.

 

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The real story on the Patriot Purge attack against Conservatives.

Tucker Carlson's Patriot Purge Part 1

 

[lou8700]

Really? Did they ask you? They didn't ask me. Who did they ask? Where did they ask?

Polls can tell whatever part of the truth you desire with the right polling pool being used.

What if the government mandates people be healthy and charge those with high BMIs? It's a health issue that would prevent hospitalization for many like I've seen mentioned so many times for people with covid. So why not? It's for your health? How bout if you have a high BMI you are forced to eat only salad until you are a healthy weight? When are we going to mandate a ban on smoking?

People being overweight and smoking is hurting them much more than I ever will not being vaxed.

I don't see how you can be for one part of health for the greater good and not be for health in everything.

You have a valid argument if all you care about is yourself. All the things you mentioned will only effect the health of an individual. A look back through history will show pandemics that killed over half of the population. Science and common sense has come a long way since those days where many of those diseases aren't even on the radar anymore. If nothing was done about covid and we just depended on herd immunity to get through it how many people is acceptable as a loss? The elderly the ones with compromised imunes the few totally healthy that for some reason it hits hard, ya screw em, toughen up man!
I am all about personal responsibility of things that an individual can control though. Ruin your liver drinking, lungs smoking, obesity related issues, brain by not wearing a helmet, etc etc, then yes, pay more for healthcare insurance to take care of yourself.

 

[lou8700]

Tens of thousands are losing their jobs as we speak because of illegal mandates and it isn't alright and never was.

Good thing that in this economy they will be able to find a job easily. Construction, food industry, etc. etc. are in sore need of help. Be prepared to work hard for less pay and benefits though.

 

[Flyboy]

For those jumping up and down over having to get THE vaccine. If you are reading this, live in the USA, you've had several required/mandatory shots.

YOU SURVIVED ALL OF THEM.

Just get the damn shot and move on. Rest assured there will be something else to fight over after this coms down.

Heaven forbib we actually be one united under God !

From one that believes in the Vaccine and Fauci was his Hero...

 

[Flyboy]

Good thing that in this economy they will be able to find a job easily. Construction, food industry, etc. etc. are in sore need of help. Be prepared to work hard for less pay and benefits though.

Not the answer as the bar is lowered to fill the ranks with sheep and that will lead to worse law enforcement as witnessed by the rise in crime. It is more than what directly surrounds you and your home as you find out...

As far as less pay, we already discussed I made far more in the Civilian world for less work and actually concluded once I removed training and other expenses to get me where they needed me, it was several hundred dollars an hour to do what I liked. Working in LE was 24/7/365 as my assignments only allowed me not to be call when on vacation and the Public paid me peanuts, but it was more than money. I turned down opportunities to serve, but you will never get that...

My Pension was your contract...

 

[Flyboy]

You have a valid argument if all you care about is yourself. All the things you mentioned will only effect the health of an individual. A look back through history will show pandemics that killed over half of the population. Science and common sense has come a long way since those days where many of those diseases aren't even on the radar anymore. If nothing was done about covid and we just depended on herd immunity to get through it how many people is acceptable as a loss? The elderly the ones with compromised imunes the few totally healthy that for some reason it hits hard, ya screw em, toughen up man!
I am all about personal responsibility of things that an individual can control though. Ruin your liver drinking, lungs smoking, obesity related issues, brain by not wearing a helmet, etc etc, then yes, pay more for healthcare insurance to take care of yourself.

So you still believe what you have been told despite the facts showing otherwise. Amazing the inability to see the big picture as it is clear you have been lied to since Day 1...

Pfizer's Profits Surge on Soaring COVID-19 Vaccine Sales

 

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So you still believe what you have been told despite the facts showing otherwise. Amazing the inability to see the big picture as it is clear you have been lied to since Day 1...

Pfizer's Profits Surge on Soaring COVID-19 Vaccine Sales

And one of Congress's biggest holdings among it's members is Pfizer. Go figure huh?

 

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So let me get this straight, a virus that was manufactured in China paid four by a group that believes in depopulation, led by the Gates foundation which never got their software correct and also believes in depopulation…. The politicians that want me to be vaccinated all have their hands in the cookie jar to get rich and using baby fetuses that I object to in the first place since all of those children should have received a proper burial.

demanded by the king on the hill since it’s not a law and those that refuse are the crazy ones?

Wow

 

[VicVisionBulldog]

For those jumping up and down over having to get THE vaccine. If you are reading this, live in the USA, you've had several required/mandatory shots.

YOU SURVIVED ALL OF THEM.

Just get the damn shot and move on. Rest assured there will be something else to fight over after this coms down.

Heaven forbib we actually be one united under God !

You survive everything you go through until you don't. Do you know which event will be the one that takes you out? I certainly don't. I've had many near misses over the years and over that time I became more and more cautious because of each. They taught me to slow down at times and don't get sucked into a situation. That is all I'm doing. I'm slowing down and doing what I believe is best for my wife and I. Maybe one day I'll get it. Probably will be around the time I start getting the flu shot.

 

[VicVisionBulldog]

You have a valid argument if all you care about is yourself.

It's not about who I care about. It's about who I'm responsible for. That's my wife and I. Nobody else.

People have been living their lives the way they want smoking, drinking, and overeating for many years putting them in high risk categories for a number of things.

BUT NOW, it's my responsibility to do something for their health? What sense does that make? Where were they last night when my wife and I were in the gym until almost 2am, after both putting in a full day of work? Did they improve their fitness in some way yesterday.... Will they today? I doubt it. They probably just continued their glutenous lifestyle thinking not even about themselves.

Maybe I could start to care about their health and wellbeing when they do. Typical behavior though is put yourself in a bad spot and expect someone to save you. I'm not like that. I'm extremely self sufficient. In my career I've been the savior many times. This however is not one of those times I should be.

Tell you what if you give me the legal right to slap cheeseburgers out of fat people's hands I'll get the shot.

All the things you mentioned will only effect the health of an individual.

Using the same argument I've seen with covid.

When the time comes and a overweight diabetic goes to the hospital because they have over eaten making them morbidly obese and then not properly cared for their diabetes they should be turned away just like people want those with covid that haven't been vaccinated to be?

Is it not the same?

 

[lou8700]

It's not about who I care about. It's about who I'm responsible for. That's my wife and I. Nobody else.

Spoken like a true public servant! No reason to reply with another broken record response. I get it.

 

[VicVisionBulldog]

Spoken like a true public servant! No reason to reply with another broken record response. I get it.

I don't know who told you public servants need to be robots and do everything they're told but that's not true. We're regular people with regular lives outside our job. We have family, hobbies, interests just like anyone else. We shall have our own belief systems.

With all of that we get to make our own decisions just like you do. We have rights too. Do we never get to be regular people?

The guy flipping burgers doesn't need a shot in your eyes and you're not worried about that, but you're worried about me having it. Why are public servants on a separate list?

Why do you not care about my wife? Why do you want me to risk losing her? I've said several times the women in her family have heart issues and that her mom died 30 days after getting the second shot. During that 30 days she was having chest pains and had a doctors appointment the morning we found her dead to get it looked at. She didn't make it in and ultimately died of a heart attack.

So you want her to get the shot to "save a few", but don't mind her dieing from it because of things outside of our control?

That's a tough way to get me to start caring. I live for my wife and would die for my wife. She's my number one.

 

[lou8700]

So you want her to get the shot to "save a few", but don't mind her dieing from it because of things outside of our control?

Nobody is suggesting for your wife to get the shot if she has health issues that would make it risky. Does she have a job that is mandating it? Im sure with a valid doctor's excuse the requirements would be lifted. I believe the requirement for the shots are lifted for everyone under the mandate as long regular testing is done. Again, I don't care if you get the shot or not. It's just a personal choice which has possible consequences.

 

[VicVisionBulldog]

Does she have a job that is mandating it? Im sure with a valid doctor's excuse the requirements would be lifted.

Thankfully she doesn't.... At the moment. If this 100 person company mandate goes into effect? Then she would....I think. They would be close if not there now. Certainly no room to grow.

Again, I don't care if you get the shot or not. It's just a personal chice which has possible consequences.

Maybe if it effected your life you would feel differently. If it comes down to us both losing our jobs that is what it will be. I'm good with that and we'll survive. It just shouldn't come to that.

 

[VicVisionBulldog]

I was told a story yesterday from a guy that participates in CrossFit. They had a guy there that competed in CrossFit as well as power lifting. He was described as a picture of health.

He got the shot and almost immediately had an adverse reaction to it. He ended up dieing from it.

Just like people don't know how they'll react to covid you can not be certain how you will react to the shot. I've had covid, twice, so I have more knowledge than some to decide what is right for me.

I'm certainly not signing up for a shot that I know nothing about to combat what I've already had and have an idea of my reaction with. I'm simply going with the known instead of venturing into the unknown. I've said before maybe I would get the shot if I hadn't had covid. Then I'd have two unknowns. That's just not my reality.

 

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I don't listen to the "guilt" pro vaccine crowd. "So you don't spread it to someone else" is the least of my concerns. Sorry but I'm here for me not you. The Liberal guilt argument doesn't work anymore and i don't care what you think. Liberals were the biggest hoarders in the supermarkets and cared not for the elderly that couldn't shop or get food. They came in like vultures. You take care of yourself and I'll take care of myself. Pick another reason besides guilt... I have none.

 

[snobnd]

I was told a story yesterday from a guy that participates in CrossFit. They had a guy there that competed in CrossFit as well as power lifting. He was described as a picture of health.

He got the shot and almost immediately had an adverse reaction to it. He ended up dieing from it.

Just like people don't know how they'll react to covid you can not be certain how you will react to the shot. I've had covid, twice, so I have more knowledge than some to decide what is right for me.

I'm certainly not signing up for a shot that I know nothing about to combat what I've already had and have an idea of my reaction with. I'm simply going with the known instead of venturing into the unknown. I've said before maybe I would get the shot if I hadn't had covid. Then I'd have two unknowns. That's just not my reality.

five out of six Russian roulette participants agree that it is a safe practice!

 

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