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  1. CTGunner

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    These Freedom Radius Sharp Curve pipes are loud.

    Any recommendations for pipes that are not as loud but perform/tune well?
    RPW, Bassani??
     
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    @CTGunner Being in NY, having llyods goodies already, a call / visit to his shop would be most beneficial. Can you post a pic of your bike with a good view of current pipes ( 4 research not to fulfill my endless desire of seeing bike porn ) the world may have problems but it has even more solutions
     
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    Funny you should mention that. I had planned to go to Lloyd's earlier in the year for their Bike Week but their Tech broke his leg and it was postponed...Indefinitely from the looks of it

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    That would certainly describe me. I've never hasseled anybody for exhaust.

    Not many officers do. Plus if you behave they'll probably won't notice you. If you see the police shift up and putt on by. I do this coming into my neighborhood after I get off work. I try to be as quiet as possible.

    Unless it does become part of the inspection I doubt you'll see much change. Most officers don't have DB meters, or care to.
     
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    Being new to New York and coming from a state that does not have annual inspections, I have some concern due to the inspections because it has been stated that there will be decibel meters both at the annual inspection and in the hands of officers. But a fellow rider said something yesterday that made sense. He stated that the inspection stations are not going to know what exhaust is on the bike and the inspector can always say that it was quiet when he inspected it. The inspector cannot be held accountable. Decibel meter or not. I mean, I could throw a set of pipes on for the inspection and go back and reinstall later. (Forget that changing the exhaust on this thing is a pain. :) )

    That having been said, like you, I roll my bike out of my garage, start it in the street and leave as quietly as I can. I do not blast through residential neighborhoods nor gun it through town. To do so would only attract attention from sensitive people and the law.
     
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    It is going to be part of the inspection. They will use a dB meter for inspection. That is if all the inspection sites bother. My nephew in Tonawanda NY will put his oem mufflers on his Heritage Softail for inspection. He’s glad he kept them. He just hopes he don’t run across a local cop that’s not biker friendly after he switches them back. But riding season is almost over there so we’ll see what happens in the spring when all the bikes come out of hibernation.
    Here’s a summary of all state laws fromSEMA
    Exhaust Noise Laws By State | SEMA ACTION NETWORK
     
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    In that link it says, "It shall be unlawful for any person to operate or cause of be operated on a public highway any motor vehicle or combination of vehicles, except motorcycles, with a maximum gross weight of ten thousand pounds or less, at any time, under any condition of grade, load, acceleration or deceleration in such a manner as to exceed the applicable A-weighted sound level set forth in table II."


    For a shop to be legal they would need a certified and calibrated decibel reader. I don't see shops keeping that and being able to testify to it's calibration over time. I wouldn't think their testimony to a shop sound meter would fly most of the time.....or that they're going to be willing to do it.
     
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    Along with every Indian, Victory, and Crotch rocket
    That link doesn't tell the story. It does not include the law that will take effect in April 2022:
    Governor Hochul Signs Legislation Cracking Down on Noisy, Illegal Mufflers and Exhaust Systems to Protect Public Health, Safety and Quality of Life

    I hope you are right on the decibel meter and the inspector's willingness to use it. I have the winter so I may either sell the bike (I have my eye on Indian ) or change the exhaust to something like the Thor 2 into 1. It is quieter and a better exhaust from all accounts and then take my chances. Besides, I like to tinker.
     
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    They are a bunch of dipsh!ts.

    "Councilman Justin Brannan said, "I want to thank Governor Hochul for signing this bill. My constituents have been demanding action ever since we saw -- and certainly heard -- drivers illegally modifying their mufflers and disturbing our quality of life and quite frankly, scaring people!"

    Kinda reminds me of lawnmower boy.


    "Maureen Landers said, "Modified exhaust systems serve no purpose other than to create fear, chaos and intimidation."

    That is not why I have louder exhaust on my bike or truck.


    This will all depend on how the actual law is written. If it is just a visual inspection I think most will be fine that have bought systems.....unless you are running a system like @jwfuchs1 black bike. Goodness that thing is loud! But most with regular aftermarket pipes will probably be fine.
     
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    (I corrected the date to April 2022 - Temporary brain lapse)
    I hope you are right. There are so many guys who have spent good scarce cash to build there bikes the way they want them. The majority of which I believe are good conscientious people. There are a few bad apples but...there will be tools to deal with them. That is where they should focus the law.

    You want to be a cop in Poughkeepsie, NY? Near me please? :)
     
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    That is going to have to be a hard NO. I am not leaving Texas any time soon.
     
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    Reminds me what my pappy used say Don’t b a dick u lil a$$hole
     
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    Exhaust is not part of inspection! It may be illegal in all "lower 48" but if it has one it will pass. Supposedly It is a safety item check! do the lights work & lenses good, horn make a noise, are there thick enough brake pads/shoe there, do tires have at least 2/32's of tread, etc. Convertors and O2 sensors not part of it yet. It generally takes 2-3 minutes to inspect, 5-10 to do paper. BUT BECAUSE YOU PASSED INSPECTION does not mean you can not get a ticket. New York is pretty stupid - But then it is a "DUMB-O-CRAP" run state. Inspection and legal here are two different things. OPEN PIPES PASS INSPECTION. But you can get a ticket for it. If you have a LOUD VEHICLE and drive STUPID with it you WILL get noticed, If you Drive STUPID with a quiet EXHAUST you will get noticed. so don't be stupid.
     
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