I think I remember reading somewhere that the plug was for the reverse kit but can't say with any confidence.
New vision - trying to figure out what the LAST owner did.
Okay this is probably a tough one.
The shop I got the bike from has NO CLUE what the owner did. I've asked if they'll reach out to him and pray they will talk.
<- Here's the video from the dealer on my bike. They list it as"open exhaust", and the baffles are gone. I dunno if he did a Witchdoctors swap or what.
I want to fix a couple issues. The first is it's LOUD.. I want to get that to a quieter level. I don't have pops on decel unless the RPM is too low and then I get one big pop that's it.
Second, it 'chugs' at low speed. The smoothness for low speed maneuvers is not there, it always on the verge of a stall it feels like.
When driving, 25/35/45 it doesn't seem to have a happy RPM range at all. It's not really 'smooth' until I hit 4th gear and 50mph and then bammo smooooooth as butter. Exhaust quiets down a lot everything.
Anyone have any tips/tricks for figuring out what's been done? My buddy has a CC and he's got cams/power commander/exhaust done, his pops on decel like a typical baffle removal would do, different than mine. But that low speed chug is very similar to mine.
And if you ARE the owner and happen to see this. Duuuude help me out!! lol
The shop I got the bike from has NO CLUE what the owner did. I've asked if they'll reach out to him and pray they will talk.
I want to fix a couple issues. The first is it's LOUD.. I want to get that to a quieter level. I don't have pops on decel unless the RPM is too low and then I get one big pop that's it.
Second, it 'chugs' at low speed. The smoothness for low speed maneuvers is not there, it always on the verge of a stall it feels like.
When driving, 25/35/45 it doesn't seem to have a happy RPM range at all. It's not really 'smooth' until I hit 4th gear and 50mph and then bammo smooooooth as butter. Exhaust quiets down a lot everything.
Anyone have any tips/tricks for figuring out what's been done? My buddy has a CC and he's got cams/power commander/exhaust done, his pops on decel like a typical baffle removal would do, different than mine. But that low speed chug is very similar to mine.
And if you ARE the owner and happen to see this. Duuuude help me out!! lol
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Certainly sounds plausible. It’s in the right area for it. @BrotherWind any chance you can look at yours and confirm that plug is for the reverse?I think I remember reading somewhere that the plug was for the reverse kit but can't say with any confidence.
Thanks for the help! I figured it was one of those "extra" plugs you mentioned but figured better safe than sorry seeing all the modifications this thing hasCertainly sounds plausible. It’s in the right area for it. @BrotherWind any chance you can look at yours and confirm that plug is for the reverse?
Next nice day I'll have to take more apart to check lol!
Still kinda shocked a bit at all the mods on this thing! It only had 7k miles and I got it for under 10k. Besides the minor paint blemishes this things NICE!
Would be great if it also had cams. After you confirm timing wheel, that may be your next check.
Where's your red line? Not a guarantee of cams but a pretty good indicator. Especially if it is above 6200 and pulls all the way up. A good first and second gear pull will tell you.
So my first gear is super slow. No get up and pull nothing, but when I hit second HOLY effing hell does it pull. Like shocked the hell out of me pull and I'm used to a 0-60 in 4ish seconds.Where's your red line? Not a guarantee of cams but a pretty good indicator. Especially if it is above 6200 and pulls all the way up. A good first and second gear pull will tell you.
2nd, 3rd, 4th all pull hard. I am dead serious when I said I accidentally got up near that 150 mark. I was totally not expecting it. I haven't yet tried to bury the tach. I very much try to avoid that til I know a bike well enough to risk it.
My previous bikes didn't redline until 10k and buried at 12k. This thing is literally half that. so I have tried to keep it under 5k. But every inch of that 1-5k hauls ass in every gear except first. I actually find it kinda odd how underpowered first is, but honestly i'm getting used to it and it helps with the slow speed maneuvering.
Edit: I THINK i needed to be going 70ish for 6th to feel 'right' btw. Couldn't maintain it long on the stretch I had so I need more testing
On my CCT with the cams and maximus, filter and exhaust all working in harmony, I can lift the front wheel shifting into second from first. It's not much, but it does leave the ground. But first pulls very hard. Haven't timed it, but zero to 80 happens damn fast and only very shortly into third. That's with me shifting right around 6200 rpm. Noe says I'm good to 6300, but I want to shift before hitting the limiter. I don't do this often. What I enjoy about the bike is the pull from almost anywhere in the band and the passing ability with only slight roll on at freeway speeds. That, and the fact that it runs butter smooth between 3 and 4 K and remains relatively cool.
I could be off the mark, but your first gear experience sounds like your exhaust (or maybe the tune) is costing you torque over HP. Might be too open.
I could be off the mark, but your first gear experience sounds like your exhaust (or maybe the tune) is costing you torque over HP. Might be too open.
Try to see if it continues to pull through 5k up to 6k. If so, you have cams.So my first gear is super slow. No get up and pull nothing, but when I hit second HOLY effing hell does it pull. Like shocked the hell out of me pull and I'm used to a 0-60 in 4ish seconds.
2nd, 3rd, 4th all pull hard. I am dead serious when I said I accidentally got up near that 150 mark. I was totally not expecting it. I haven't yet tried to bury the tach. I very much try to avoid that til I know a bike well enough to risk it.
My previous bikes didn't redline until 10k and buried at 12k. This thing is literally half that. so I have tried to keep it under 5k. But every inch of that 1-5k hauls ass in every gear except first. I actually find it kinda odd how underpowered first is, but honestly i'm getting used to it and it helps with the slow speed maneuvering.
Edit: I THINK i needed to be going 70ish for 6th to feel 'right' btw. Couldn't maintain it long on the stretch I had so I need more testing
I agree with MagVic…the Ness are probably costing you some low end torque. There is a natural dip in low end on these a bit anyway.
completely on the mark with “70” and not shifting into 6th until on or after that mph. That’s right in line with the rest of us.
have you heard back yet from the seller and whether the original owner is willing to chat with you?
Try to see if it continues to pull through 5k up to 6k. If so, you have cams.
I agree with MagVic…the Ness are probably costing you some low end torque. There is a natural dip in low end on these a bit anyway.
completely on the mark with “70” and not shifting into 6th until on or after that mph. That’s right in line with the rest of us.
have you heard back yet from the seller and whether the original owner is willing to chat with you?
Dealer is providing me his contact information, said they'd include it in the title paperwork they mail back. So just waiting on that then I can reach out and cross my fingers. Winter weather is fighting it's way in here so nice times to ride are dwindling heh..
Things I’d ask about.Dealer is providing me his contact information, said they'd include it in the title paperwork they mail back. So just waiting on that then I can reach out and cross my fingers. Winter weather is fighting it's way in here so nice times to ride are dwindling heh..
- was it dyno tuned or just a canned map from PC or The Vic Shop
- Lloyd’s Top Filter?
- Lloydz adjustable timing wheel?
- Cams? If so, which ones.
- Front fender fix done? (You can actually check this yourself…if there is a bolt halfway down the back half of the front fender, then it has been done…basically right where the brake lines run)
- what oil did he use? Low enough mileage that it may not matter, but this could help in your decision on what to use going forward.
hi, what is the horsepower of your bike with all the upgrades? how many horses have become, and what is the torque?Try to see if it continues to pull through 5k up to 6k. If so, you have cams.
I agree with MagVic…the Ness are probably costing you some low end torque. There is a natural dip in low end on these a bit anyway.
completely on the mark with “70” and not shifting into 6th until on or after that mph. That’s right in line with the rest of us.
have you heard back yet from the seller and whether the original owner is willing to chat with you?
With the Lloydz 501 cams, top filter, timing wheel & PCV with tune I’m at 115hp & 119tq at the rear wheel.hi, what is the horsepower of your bike with all the upgrades? how many horses have become, and what is the torque?
and if you take OEM, what were its characteristics?With the Lloydz 501 cams, top filter, timing wheel & PCV with tune I’m at 115hp & 119tq at the rear wheel.
And how long does it cut off the revs? Over 6000rpm
Characteristics are “it should have come from the factory like this”. Faster, smoother, pull up to 6000rpm. My PCV is actually set at 5800 (just the normal 500 above redline that is a checkbox in the software) and it pulls all the way to it.and if you take OEM, what were its characteristics?
And how long does it cut off the revs? Over 6000rpm
only thing I would do different if starting over would be to get the Maximus ecu tune instead of the PCV piggyback and timing wheel (but it wasn’t available when I did mine)
You've got another 4-5 hundred rpm waiting on you there. Not that you'd use it that often, but when you did.......Yeah!
Yeah, I hear ya. I have to get an authorized shop and special code to extend it though. Maybe I can see if my dyno guy will do it on the fly.You've got another 4-5 hundred rpm waiting on you there. Not that you'd use it that often, but when you did.......Yeah!
unless someone on here has the code, then I can load it myself.
Good guess, no, I haven’t felt good all weeksomeone on here has the code,
So got some new tips from crosscountryla, bout all i can do for the arlen ness big honkers slip ons to tone em down a bit. They help a lil bit. The neighbors aren't as pissed when I take off now and I can actually hear my radio hahaha.
Also got my backrest from utopia and OMG is this thing comfyyyy. ooo so much more relaxing. Haven't gotten a response on flywheel/cams yet, and I don't feel like taking stuff apart and replacing gaskets quite yet just to CHECK..
Next items are going to be adjusting the shifter/brake peddle. They feel a tad loose and need to adjust for my ride length, finding a vision trunk, and keeping my eye out for some stock mufflers to put back on some day.
Also got my backrest from utopia and OMG is this thing comfyyyy. ooo so much more relaxing. Haven't gotten a response on flywheel/cams yet, and I don't feel like taking stuff apart and replacing gaskets quite yet just to CHECK..
Next items are going to be adjusting the shifter/brake peddle. They feel a tad loose and need to adjust for my ride length, finding a vision trunk, and keeping my eye out for some stock mufflers to put back on some day.
For the shifter/brake slop there are brass replacement bushings you can get. Soooo much better than stock.So got some new tips from crosscountryla, bout all i can do for the arlen ness big honkers slip ons to tone em down a bit. They help a lil bit. The neighbors aren't as pissed when I take off now and I can actually hear my radio hahaha.
Also got my backrest from utopia and OMG is this thing comfyyyy. ooo so much more relaxing. Haven't gotten a response on flywheel/cams yet, and I don't feel like taking stuff apart and replacing gaskets quite yet just to CHECK..
Next items are going to be adjusting the shifter/brake peddle. They feel a tad loose and need to adjust for my ride length, finding a vision trunk, and keeping my eye out for some stock mufflers to put back on some day.
keep an eye on eBay for replacement mufflers. Saw a set off a 08 I think that were going cheap.
Greetings @Art Z
Brass brake and shifter lever bushings: $12 https://www.amazon.com/CICMOD-Bushi...fix=victory+brass+bushing,aps,119&sr=8-3&th=1
Ride safe,
Smokier
Brass brake and shifter lever bushings: $12 https://www.amazon.com/CICMOD-Bushi...fix=victory+brass+bushing,aps,119&sr=8-3&th=1
Ride safe,
Smokier
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