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Okay this is probably a tough one.

The shop I got the bike from has NO CLUE what the owner did. I've asked if they'll reach out to him and pray they will talk.

<- Here's the video from the dealer on my bike. They list it as"open exhaust", and the baffles are gone. I dunno if he did a Witchdoctors swap or what.

I want to fix a couple issues. The first is it's LOUD.. I want to get that to a quieter level. I don't have pops on decel unless the RPM is too low and then I get one big pop that's it.
Second, it 'chugs' at low speed. The smoothness for low speed maneuvers is not there, it always on the verge of a stall it feels like.
When driving, 25/35/45 it doesn't seem to have a happy RPM range at all. It's not really 'smooth' until I hit 4th gear and 50mph and then bammo smooooooth as butter. Exhaust quiets down a lot everything.

Anyone have any tips/tricks for figuring out what's been done? My buddy has a CC and he's got cams/power commander/exhaust done, his pops on decel like a typical baffle removal would do, different than mine. But that low speed chug is very similar to mine.

And if you ARE the owner and happen to see this. Duuuude help me out!! lol
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Welcome to the vog and the new to you Vision.

a couple of things to check/be aware of.

exhaust. Yes, could be just a recore from WD or Miller or Ness Big Honkers. If you want them quieter, your best bet is to have them reworked by Ragin Cajun. On here as @crosscountryla He has reworked more mufflers than anyone and has more happy customers than you can shake a stick at.

is there a power commander on the bike? Usually under the panel right in front of the seat or the side panel under the right side of the seat.

Vics do NOT like low rpm. Keep RPMs at 2500+ (yes, even at slow speeds as much as possible) to avoid the “chug”. you are likely lugging the motor.

if elevation or weather has changed, you can do the IAC and TPS reset procedures just to make sure. Do a search on here for how to do them.
 

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Welcome to the vog and the new to you Vision.

a couple of things to check/be aware of.

exhaust. Yes, could be just a recore from WD or Miller or Ness Big Honkers. If you want them quieter, your best bet is to have them reworked by Ragin Cajun. On here as @crosscountryla He has reworked more mufflers than anyone and has more happy customers than you can shake a stick at.

is there a power commander on the bike? Usually under the panel right in front of the seat or the side panel under the right side of the seat.

Vics do NOT like low rpm. Keep RPMs at 2500+ (yes, even at slow speeds as much as possible) to avoid the “chug”. you are likely lugging the motor.

if elevation or weather has changed, you can do the IAC and TPS reset procedures just to make sure. Do a search on here for how to do them.
I read that about the RPMs on the forum, something I'll keep a closer eye on. My previous bikes have been Magnas, and the vision's RPM literally tops off a few thousand RPM before they even redline heh. Thanks for the IAC/TPS info! I haven't come across that in my searches yet!!!! It went from NC mountains to TN Lowlands.
 

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I read that about the RPMs on the forum, something I'll keep a closer eye on. My previous bikes have been Magnas, and the vision's RPM literally tops off a few thousand RPM before they even redline heh. Thanks for the IAC/TPS info! I haven't come across that in my searches yet!!!! It went from NC mountains to TN Lowlands.
Let me see if I can find the links for you.

stock cams in Vics usually fall off around 4K-4500 even through the redline is 5300. Lloydz aftermarket cams will pull until 6k. Highly recommend.
 

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Okay this is probably a tough one.

The shop I got the bike from has NO CLUE what the owner did. I've asked if they'll reach out to him and pray they will talk.

<- Here's the video from the dealer on my bike. They list it as"open exhaust", and the baffles are gone. I dunno if he did a Witchdoctors swap or what.

I want to fix a couple issues. The first is it's LOUD.. I want to get that to a quieter level. I don't have pops on decel unless the RPM is too low and then I get one big pop that's it.
Second, it 'chugs' at low speed. The smoothness for low speed maneuvers is not there, it always on the verge of a stall it feels like.
When driving, 25/35/45 it doesn't seem to have a happy RPM range at all. It's not really 'smooth' until I hit 4th gear and 50mph and then bammo smooooooth as butter. Exhaust quiets down a lot everything.

Anyone have any tips/tricks for figuring out what's been done? My buddy has a CC and he's got cams/power commander/exhaust done, his pops on decel like a typical baffle removal would do, different than mine. But that low speed chug is very similar to mine.

And if you ARE the owner and happen to see this. Duuuude help me out!! lol

I sent you a private message.
 

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IAC reset: Check Engine light/IAC problem

TPS reset: TPS reset procedure

also download a manual here courtesy of fellow Vog member BBob. Just get the closest model year to yours (most all Visions are the same except some differences with the 08-09 bikes.

 
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Thanks huge MD2420, first thing I did after your post was look for that reset. Made a very noticeable difference! Did another good ride and kept the bike at a higher RPM. It seemed a bit happier there.

Also finally got to checking the rear suspension... yeah... 0 psi.. figured it was 'low' but dayum not zero. Soo THAT also helped :)
 

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Thanks huge MD2420, first thing I did after your post was look for that reset. Made a very noticeable difference! Did another good ride and kept the bike at a higher RPM. It seemed a bit happier there.

Also finally got to checking the rear suspension... yeah... 0 psi.. figured it was 'low' but dayum not zero. Soo THAT also helped :)
Glad to hear it helped! Mine loves to cruise at 2800-3000 all day long and in any gear.
 

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Greetings @Art Z ,

Congratulations and welcome! Beautiful machine.

Ride safe,
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Welcome and congratulations. Once you get it sorted out and used to this vs. the Magna's you'll be very happy with it.
 

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Welcome and congratulations. Once you get it sorted out and used to this vs. the Magna's you'll be very happy with it.
Oh I already am very happy with it. hilariously every magna I owned I had to go through the same process :) Bit easier, older bike easier to break down for me heh. Someone ALWAYS did something foolish to the exhaust causing popping/backfires/perfomance issues just for audio.

With the vision, a lot more cool and or scary things the previous guy could have done.

Already made a order for a utopia backrest. I may have to get a color mismatched trunk from the look of it... But meh. can't have everything.
 

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If your rev limiter is somewhere around 5600, then you are likely stock. With cams and proper tune You will be at 6200 at least. And, as stated above, it will pull all the way up. Very nice, these engines when they are allowed to breathe. Not exactly Magna Hp/weight, but still, very nice with great torque.
 
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If your rev limiter is somewhere around 5600, then you are likely stock. With cams and proper tune You will be at 6200 at least. And, as stated above, it will pull all the way up. Very nice, these engines when they are allowed to breathe. Not exactly Magna Hp/weight, but still, very nice with great torque.
Well considering I hit damn near 150mph on the way home by accident today.... mmmm yeah... reeeeeaaaaallly wondering what work was done.
 

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Thanks to a lot of helpful replies and messages from folks!!!

crosscountryla was able to identify the pipes I've got on right now as the Arlen Ness Big Honkers and is able to help me out with reworking them to something closer to my goals, big kudos/thanks there!

Gonna start stripping the seat off to look for anything hidden underneath and the air filter as well. I THINK I spotted a plug earlier that seemed odd to be 'sitting there' just behind the engine i'll post up tomorrow and hopefully someone can identify what it is.
 

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Thanks to a lot of helpful replies and messages from folks!!!

crosscountryla was able to identify the pipes I've got on right now as the Arlen Ness Big Honkers and is able to help me out with reworking them to something closer to my goals, big kudos/thanks there!

Gonna start stripping the seat off to look for anything hidden underneath and the air filter as well. I THINK I spotted a plug earlier that seemed odd to be 'sitting there' just behind the engine i'll post up tomorrow and hopefully someone can identify what it is.
Dave is the man when it comes to exhaust.

check for any piggyback wiring on your injector wires and that will tell you if it has a PCV. In addition to checking the 2 spots I already mentioned where the module may be.

re: random plugs, Polaris used the same harness for a bunch of models and trims, so you may find some that are not plugged in anywhere because they don’t apply to your Vision.

a couple of other places to check your bike.
  • under the radio/center console is where the “top filter” is located. PO may have added it. If not, there will just be a block off plate there.
  • you could check for a timing wheel under the cam cover on the right side. Have to take the floorboard off (2 bolts) and then 5 bolts for the cam cover.
  • I’d check for the top filter and pcv first before pulling the cam cover. If it’s OEM, you may need to replace the gasket when reinstalling.
 

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Greetings @Art Z ,
The Lloyd’s timing wheel is a very popular upgrade. Check the gasket around the right-side engine case cover. A factory gasket is nearly flush with the case and cover. The Lloydz gasket is thicker, firmer, and sticks up a bit, you can feel it.
Agreed; Dave (CrossCountryLA) knows these exhausts.

Ride safe,
Smokier
 
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Well finally got some time and warm weather to poke around the bike.. first panel i pop off.. power commander V. Just nestled there perfectly staring at me. I do have two questions. Took the air filter off to check it. Shop said they put a new one in, but when I look at this thing.. it doesn't look like the standard polaris part. It's the correct pair number.. The outer 'case' looks factory but the filter material is this bluish/black almost like a high end you must oil/wash style.. could be totally wrong.. couldn't find a picture online that matches this. Also a picture of the one plug behind the engine that's just sitting there.. if anyone knows either of these I'd love to know!!

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Filter is the K&N replacement. Clean and re oil. I would also pull the radio/center console out and see if it has the Loydz top filter installed as well.
 
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Agree with what MLR1 said re: the front filter (Vic had a performance washable one) and checking for the Top Filter as well. Having the PCV you likely have the Lloydz Adjustable timing wheel as well. Would be good to know what it is set at. So you should pop the cam cover off and take a look.

you can add the power commander app to your laptop and download the tune that is on it. I did that with mine so I always have a backup of it on my computer and a flash drive I carry on the bike.

Re: the plug as I mentioned before Polaris used the same harness for a lot of bikes, so it likely not used for your bike. Does it look like it has ever been plugged into anything?
 

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I just checked my 2014 and also have the same white plug…not tied to anything. So I wouldn’t worry about it.
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