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MotoAmerica's Battle Of The Baggers Race at Laguna Seca

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  1. Army Tanker

    Army Tanker Well-Known Member

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    It seems as though MotoAmerica's King of the Baggers series is just pure bagger racing at a premiere level, whereas the Baggers Racing League series is sort of like a mini bike rally with multiple categories of bagger racing, including a premiere level of bagger racing, a pro-stock category in which regular riders can also race, and a stunt rider competition category (although I don't know how the stunt category would be judged) included in the mix at the bike rally. It'll be interesting to see the pro-stock category race in which regular guys off the street will race.
     
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    it might not be a factor. A HD softail with a 114 weight is 673 lbs. Thats no bags, fairing, windshield etc... I really doubt these baggers can get below 600 lbs anyways.
     
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    The sad reality is there are now two bagger organizations with 'rules' clearly aimed at promoting H-D to the podium. If these rules remain, I suspect both organizations will be short lived. They'll be seen as 'just another Harley only thing' from the majority of riders and spectators. If that happens, it would have been a tremendously large lost opportunity.

    Where's the 'Open Class' that would include all baggers from any manufacturer that desires to compete. I can't be the only one that would enjoy seeing the big Triumph or the BMW K1600B go around a track. Or even the BMW R1800.
     
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    That’s gonna be part of the problem, if only allows Vtwins the sport can’t grow. Hopefully will change wording & make separate classes for displacement not so much design
     
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    All racing series try to have even competition between the competitors. That’s from F1 all the way down SCCA. NASCAR even went so far as using aero matching the bodies of their cars. All cars use a 383 push rod V8 and that includes a Toyota who has never produced a push rod V 8 in its history. Moto GP gives the competition a choice of two fairings for their bikes no matter what brand you’re riding.
     
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    The bagger racing concept is still in its infancy so as the series matures it’ll change, just hopefully not into a menopausal biatch. Air cooled is on its way out ( doesn’t every other maker yami, kawi, suki, bmw, hundo have a liquid cooled option for their big bikes ) so gives HD time to develop one so won’t be on the back foot & left at the back of the pack.
     
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    H-D already has water cooled heads. Is there really a big difference in performance between a water cooled head engine, a water cooled head/cylinder engine and an air/oil cooled engine with displacement being equal?

    On the surface, it seems outrageous that H-D can go up to 131" with Polaris Indian being limited to 112". But like I've posted elsewhere, I haven't even looked at motorcycle racing for quite a few years. Therefore my 'on the surface' look could be way off the norm.
     
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    So on the Challengers the whole engine is water cooled plus it's and OHC design.
     
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    Am sure is engine guru’s on the race board so the difference must be so great that it required the rule or after they heard O’Hara was riding an Indian they got scared hahaha
     
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    Well remember the push rod Indians are allowed a 131 also
     
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    Those are air cooled also, is what I meant by the water cooled advantage.
     
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    What's the largest big bore kit anyone offers for the Indian 116"?
     
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    I think Lloydz has a 126. But being a race bike someone could have one built.
     

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