VOG Forum banner

Loud backfire from the intake, engine stalls, rough idle

8027 Views 11 Replies 5 Participants Last post by  mpmora
Hey guys,
Long time reader, never posted.

I'm handy with a wrench and prefer to do all of my own maintenance on any bike or car that I own- you guys on here have saved my ass a few times without realizing it.

So, to get to the reason that I'm now posting instead of just reading.

Starting a few days ago, I was experiencing my bike running rougher than normal. I work a lot and hadn't really had time to stop and look into the reason. Two days ago, I stopped by advance on my way home from work (needed power steering fluid for a little job on my minivan), and when I tried starting my Kingpin, there was a tremendous backfire through my intake, and then it took a few attempts to get my engine running before I was able to head home. Fortunately, I was right down the road from my house and I made it without any issues. Now, after I finished working on the van, I tried to start the bike again. It was running extremely rough, and I knew that I was about due for a plug change anyhow, so I decided to pull one out and see how they looked. Both were fouled and I replaced both. Afterward, my bike ran a little smoother, but definitely wasn't normal. I didn't have a whole lot of time to work on it, so I had to just deal with it.

My bike is my daily rider, so I dont always have time to pull it apart in detail and work on it.

The next day I again had only a little time to work on it. I knew that I was also way overdue for an air filter cleaning, so I pulled off my K&N and cleaned it, left it out to dry, then resprayed and reinstalled it. Again, running a little better, but still not normal. One major difference here is that when I pull back the idle lever, it GREATLY increases my RPM where it used to just gentle raise my idle- to the point where I've forgotten it was on.

Now, with a clean filter and new plugs, the bike is running great for midrange speeds, and still a little rough on idle. On my way home, however, I realized that It's really struggling to hit speeds that would normally be cake for it. Anything above 80mph feels like I'm asking a lot of my bike right now. When I pulled in to my drive way, I have it an obligatory vroom vroom rev to let my wife and kids (and neighbors) know I was home. When I did this, there again was a huge backfire from the intake and the engine stalled again.

Based on the way my engine is feeling, and the lean smell of gas I noticed after the misfires, I'm assuming I'm having an issue with air:fuel. Now, whether its an air leak or something faulty electronically, I don't know. I'm going to wind up take unnecessary steps in figuring this out if I go it alone, so I'm asking anyone if there is something I should check out before anything else.

Thanks in advance, guys.
See less See more
1 - 12 of 12 Posts
You probably need a new intake boot. Rubber part under the intake. Also need to clean the throttle body. And vacuum caps on the right side of the throttle body all these get dry rotted and cause air leaks, which make these bikes run rough.
  • Like
Reactions: 2
  • Like
Reactions: 1
And watch this.
  • Like
Reactions: 1
In addition to the above I'd also consider new plug wires, distributor, and do a throttle position sensor reset:
Key on
Kill switch on
Without starting the bike slowly rotate the throttle to wide open, hold for 5 seconds, let go.
Kill switch off
Key off.
what spark plugs did you put in.
Look at all the little vacuum caps they might be bad.
After a throttle body clean you should change oil and especially after trying to start it when it wouldn't.
You say its a daily rider but don't have time to look at it. What
You and your pesky search feature. :run:
I don't feel like typing it all again.
I don't feel like typing it all again.
I need to bookmark that thread for when this is asked again. Which it will be.
Thanks, guys. I took it apart today and yeah, definitely the boot ("Throttle Body Adapter"). The caps were also dry rotted. I didn't take a before shot of the TB but here is an after- nice and clean. Also scubbed up my innards a little.

Waiting for boot to arrive. I've got new gaskets and o-rings ready, just waiting on these parts.

Attachments

See less See more
5
  • Like
Reactions: 1
what spark plugs did you put in.
Look at all the little vacuum caps they might be bad.
After a throttle body clean you should change oil and especially after trying to start it when it wouldn't.
You say its a daily rider but don't have time to look at it. What
I put in NGK CPR6EB-9's. Same plugs I've always used. The vacuum caps were definitely toast. Thanks for that.

It's my daily rider but recently I've been so caught up with work and the kids that I haven't been able to devote too much attention to maintenance (I know, shoot me.) I've just been riding softer and softer as it ran worse and worse until I had a chance to really work on it. Glad I'm getting it done now, before anything major failed or left me stranded.
  • Like
Reactions: 2
1 - 12 of 12 Posts
This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. Please consider creating a new thread.
Top