[slickvic]

ahhhh yes ….. by yours truly. Just an experiment mostly. So my friend Bills XC is running pretty smooth. Meaning less engine noise than my 11XC. For some reason I’m noticing more noise coming from the rocker arm area than usual. The bike runs fine. Plenty of power but with the heat this time of year in good old S Florida ….I’m thinking the oil is breaking down sooner. Bill runs 20/50 semi syn Castrol since day 1 and swears by it.
I know Ive said before 20/40 is all thats recommended but during the heat of the summer I may do a switch over to Spectro 20/50. I run Castrol now in my pentastar v6 engines with syntec and upped the blend from 5/20 to 5/30 with noticeable results on cold start up. The syntec formula in the oil seems to stick to the hard metal parts better and for these engines (Pentastar) with their valve train issues I see it as a plus especially at the cold start. * ( see Baxter oil filter upgrade … great info on cold start issues) *

But enough about Dodge motors. Besides they are eliminating V motors in time and going with a new inline turbo charged 6 with crazy HP/ Tq numbers for daily issue. Again enough about dodge.

Back to 20/50 oil. So far 2 of my MC mechanic friends thought it was a good idea in the summer. They actually recommend to many of their customers on different models of bike to run a little thicker oil and in some cases blend. They have more experience inside these motors than I do and see first hand what the benefits can be. Sheet even Kyle …
(KMC Performance) (we all remember kyle ?) Ran 20/50 Spectro in all his Vic builds and recommended way back when ( when he did my cams in 2013) I do the same in the summer months. So be it. Old slick is jumping the 20/40 semi synthetic wagon and going to Spectro 20/50 semi syn Golden 4 ….. and who knows ….. with the price of Castrol’s version of 20/50 semi syn oil ???? And the price savings ??? Well old Bill loves how his bike runs and I have to say the motor sounds purdy good !
What have I got to loose ?


*For your reading pleasure only ! In no way is this a paid advertisement for any brand or product and I do not endorse nor accept any commissions for recommending a product. Oil at your own risk ………. What’s in your motor ?

 

[slickvic]

Lmao ……. You are a funny man. Love your replies !!!!

 

[slickvic]

still using 20-50 Maxima Pro Plus on my 2011 XC with 74k miles. Original clutch.

See now this right here is exactly what I’m talking about. Results always tell the tale and when it comes to oil it’s not always the oil that causes the problems.Maxima is good motorcycle oil. After all they have been doing this a long time And for Motorcycles!

 

[slickvic]

Your oil comments always make me laugh. Keep it up!

I will ….. remember what keeps these forums alive ……. It’s always oil threads !!!

 

[slickvic]

I asked Kyle from KMC that question also after I did my cams and Lloyd's goodies, he did the dyno tune. He told me you can never go wrong with the Vic oil, which is what I use anyway. 60k miles, still no issues and original clutch. No reason to switch oils. In my opinion, your looking for problems if you start switching weights but to each there own.

Kyle, Lloyd, Rylan, Scott, and so many others will always recommend the Vic oil ….. hell I even recommend it if you can get it. Conquest customs a builder and service facility recommends Spectro. Noe Martinez same. Vic oil or Spectro. Recommending and using are two different things though. Imagine if the above gentlemen would recommend anything else. Like Rotella or Castrol or Maxima or Amsoil and something went wrong. Then you call Polaris and and look for help and they ask “ what oil you put in there “ or you slip a clutch and there’s anything but Vic oil in there. See it’s like this ….. when you publish an owners manual and you recommend a certain brand of oil ( Vic oil ) and use something else ? That’s an out ! Yes the manual says or equivalent? Meaning 20/40 semi synthetic MC oil with appropriate classifications stamped on the bottle ……. Un like Vic oil haha.
so yeah ….. use Vic oil always if you can get it. Don’t worry about what else is available out there that may be right or even better. Let those that want to spend the time researching and testing do all that for you or just simply do as Lloyd Greer once stated …..” why pop the top off anything else” use Vic oil !

 

[slickvic]

Filter??!! Now I have something else to worry about?

No. No you don’t. This is simple. Use Vic oil and the filter. Ones in the kit.
I use K&P my 11XC and WIX XP on my Magnum.

 

[slickvic]

Because it's not made by the lowest bidder and sold at a price above better made products thats why.

And you paraphrased me like I made the statement ? No no no. That is not what slick said …. That is what lLloyd stated and documented. However I know you were just responding out of excitement due to this being an oil thread.
here’s my Statement and it sounds like yours a bit…… there are other choices as good and in most cases much better …… proven by those especially that ride year round !!!

 

[slickvic]

Gotta say when Seth did my clutch he bathed it in Rotella and then filled my bike with Rotella. I gave it 500 miles. Definitely felt a difference with the Rotella n there vs all the years I ran first Amsoil then switched to Spectro. The clutch was replaced again and the Rotella never went back in. Yeah the difference was not to my liking. I don’t totally blame the oil…it was a smart choice for a break in oil lol. So the next new clutch didn’t get it. Again not blaming the oil ….. the failure was mostly due to the springs needing replacing with the clutch. Alto it was and new springs and yes Spectro 20/40.
today 6k miles later the clutch is solid.
Doing a new clutch ? Do the springs and stock springs are fine.

 

[slickvic]

So yesterday afternoon I decide to run 100 miles to give the bike a chance to warm up before I head back to do my oil change to the 20/50. Not one noise from that valve train! Like the dammmm thing fixed itself. The bike was smoother than ever. Now it has been down for a month getting a complete new sound system and VR. Re routing wires and what not. So maybe that long sit dried her up a bit and some back to back riding was needed. I’ll ride again Sunday and change the oil to the 20/50 since the hot weather is still on is for atleast another month to two.

 

[slickvic]

Thank ya Sir and will consider, but I may have to try the Spectro first based on Slick appears to swear it is the Fountain of Youth for the Vic's Hammer engine. Then if I find different, well... But looks like Slick has researched the Hell out of the subject.

Not sure about the research part. I leave that up to the company that makes it. I believe their process is a good one like Amsoil is. All I can tell you is I tried it like so many others including some of our finest wrenches out there and it’s worked to my liking. I’m confident this is the right oil for my bike and going to 20/50 during the hot summers here can only benefit with heat and shifting. This new change for me is something I look forward to trying and reporting back on. Stay tuned.

 

[slickvic]

I swear by the 20/50 semi Castrol with Actevo. 4 changes now and consistently faster turn over, not that previous was bad, but a difference. Been keeping mileage records and consistently 2+ mpg better. Smooth running no noise. Less metal dust. Using a pcs1 filter and WD plug, both have magnets and I'm just impressed. Just broke 78000 and just great.
Honda racing developed it and an old friend was one of their mechanics. Those boys are well beyond serious. Love the price too. Just the facts. I'm not a paid spokes person or anything, just a very satisfied customer. Ride on brother's...

Yep my buddy Bill won’t run anything else. I’ve heard of a few other Vic owners running the Actevo and say the same. I heard his motor and it’s just quiet. Let’s face it. It’s the right spec and blend with the correct wet clutch compatibility from a known quality company.

 

[slickvic]

152k using amsoil 10w/40 metric and Purolator 14610 filter.
Original clutch

That’s a good run and understandable with that oil. I ran it for 20,000 miles in my 2011. Then came Amsoil 20/40 specific to Victory and Indian. An advertisement / market ploy at best. I had an Amsoil rep tell me that the 10/40 was a better blend than the 20/40 for Victory. However….Due to the catalytic converter in our bikes the 20/40 jaso ma / ma2 was developed. They decided on the 20 spec because it was more exclusive to the Indian / Victory brand and the recommendation of the manufacturer to use this blend as stated in the owners manual.
Pick a good jaso ma/ ma2 wet clutch oil and stick with it like you have and this can be the result.

 

[slickvic]

Great riding this weekend and the 20/50 Spectro Golden4 semi synthetic is doing great. Shifting is improved greatly and my motor os noticeably smoother and quieter. I think on my 2011Xc I will stick with this blend and wt.

 

[slickvic]

Desecration of the an oil thread will not be tolerated ! How dare all of you !
Starting this Sunday you will all attend Slicks oil management class or be banned from oil threads for life ! Those attending with Spectro oil purchase receipts will be excused !