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I have an '06 Vegas 8Ballthat hasthe 100cc paired with the 5-speed transmission. I've been going through withdrawals lately (previous bike was 6-speed)and am toying with the idea of swapping it out for a 6-speed.
What i don't know yet, is this even possible? Has anyone done it, heard of it being done, looked into it, etc? Any help anyone can give me would be greatfully appreciated. Riding season is pretty much done in my neck of the woods so if its a cumbersome project i'm even fine with that. Just want to see if i can even do it.
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-Steve
 

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to be honest i dont know a whole bunch about switching out a tranny with a different one, but i know in 2006 the hammer had a 6 speed tranny, so i would immagine it would be possible, just depends if u can find out and how much of a hassel you want to go threw, i'd personally just runnah!
 

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I"m looking at the swap as well, but it's definitely a labor of love that would make me do it, not that it's the cheapest thing to do.

Looking at the '08 parts lists, there's a lot of common parts from the 5 to 6 speeds. Surprised me. The newer 6 speeds seem to have a large part number change, but I still wonder if the shafts/shift drum will drop in to the older cases. If so, then the helical fifth gear could be added in the swap. Looks like the bearings on the countershaft are identical, but the mainshaft bearings are different as is the bearing retention plate on the left hand side. (Comparing to a 2012 model) There's also differences in the clutch mounting. (I have most of a 2012 trans, so even if I can drop in the 6th gear parts, that would be cool. Otherwise I might sell them, and pick up the Countershaft and Main Shaft 6th gears and associated parts, as well as the 6 speed shift drum and shifter star.)

Just sticking with the 08 parts, this is what I see on the main shaft and counter shaft. Still need to add the shift drum and shift star to this, I expect. Haven't dug in to that yet. You can see most of the part numbers are identical.

Qty Usage Part# Description
1 08 5spd 1332480 Asm., Clutchshaft
1 08 6spd 1332480 Asm., Clutchshaft [Incl. 17,18,19]
4 08 5spd 3584006 Bearing, Roller
4 08 6spd 3584006 Bearing, Roller
7 08 5spd 5247690 Washer, Thrust
8 08 6spd 5247690 Washer, Thrust
1 08 5spd 6230277 Gear, 2nd Mainshaft
1 08 6spd 6230277 Gear, 2nd Mainshaft
2 08 5spd 6230278 Gear, 3rd Mainshaft
2 08 6spd 6230278 Gear, 3rd Mainshaft
1 08 5spd 6230280 Gear, 4th, Mainshaft
1 08 6spd 6230280 Gear, 4th Mainshaft
1 08 5spd 6230292 Shaft, Main
1 08 6spd 6230292 Shaft, Main
1 08 5spd 6230294 Gear 2nd/3rd Countershaft
1 08 6spd 6230294 Gear, 2nd/3rd, Countershaft
1 08 5spd 6230296 Gear, 4th Countershaft
1 08 6spd 6230296 Gear, 4th Countershaft
1 08 5spd 6230326 Shaft, Counter
1 08 6spd 6230326 Shaft, Counter
1 08 5spd 6230327 Gear, 1st Mainshaft
1 08 6spd 6230327 Gear, 1st Mainshaft
1 08 5spd 5134289 Slider Engagement 1st/2nd
1 08 6spd 6230339 Gear 6th Countershaft
1 08 6spd 6230386 Gear, 6th Mainshaft
1 08 6spd 3514608 Bearing, Needle, Split
1 08 5spd 6230389 Gear, Common, Countershaft
1 08 6spd 6230389 Gear, Common, Countershaft
8 08 5spd 7710525 Ring, Retaining
9 08 6spd 7710525 Ring, Retaining
1 08 5spd 7710548 Ring, Retaining
1 08 6spd 7710548 Ring, Retaining

Any thoughts/info on this, appreciated... And yes swapping the motor would be easier, buying another bike would be too, but I like doing this kind of thing. (It's a sickness.)
 

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Could the transmission parts actually be just this cheap to convert to a 6 speed on the 2008? (and a heck of a lot of labor and any parts that need to be replaced when you tear the motor apart to split the cases...)

Part Price Description
1332685 $130 6 speed shift drum
3514608 $006 split needle bearing
5247690 $005 thrust washer
6230339 $190 Gear 6th Countershaft
6230386 $075 Gear, 6th Mainshaft
7710525 $010 Ring, Retaining
The shift star lists as identical between the 5 and 6 speed. :)
 

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Jaak said:
Just sticking with the 08 parts, this is what I see on the main shaft and counter shaft. Still need to add the shift drum and shift star to this, I expect. Haven't dug in to that yet. You can see most of the part numbers are identical.

Qty Usage Part# Description
1 08 5spd 1332480 Asm., Clutchshaft
1 08 6spd 1332480 Asm., Clutchshaft [Incl. 17,18,19]
4 08 5spd 3584006 Bearing, Roller
4 08 6spd 3584006 Bearing, Roller
7 08 5spd 5247690 Washer, Thrust
8 08 6spd 5247690 Washer, Thrust
1 08 5spd 6230277 Gear, 2nd Mainshaft
1 08 6spd 6230277 Gear, 2nd Mainshaft
2 08 5spd 6230278 Gear, 3rd Mainshaft
2 08 6spd 6230278 Gear, 3rd Mainshaft
1 08 5spd 6230280 Gear, 4th, Mainshaft
1 08 6spd 6230280 Gear, 4th Mainshaft
1 08 5spd 6230292 Shaft, Main
1 08 6spd 6230292 Shaft, Main
1 08 5spd 6230294 Gear 2nd/3rd Countershaft
1 08 6spd 6230294 Gear, 2nd/3rd, Countershaft
1 08 5spd 6230296 Gear, 4th Countershaft
1 08 6spd 6230296 Gear, 4th Countershaft
1 08 5spd 6230326 Shaft, Counter
1 08 6spd 6230326 Shaft, Counter
1 08 5spd 6230327 Gear, 1st Mainshaft
1 08 6spd 6230327 Gear, 1st Mainshaft
1 08 5spd 5134289 Slider Engagement 1st/2nd
1 08 6spd 6230339 Gear 6th Countershaft
1 08 6spd 6230386 Gear, 6th Mainshaft
1 08 6spd 3514608 Bearing, Needle, Split
1 08 5spd 6230389 Gear, Common, Countershaft
1 08 6spd 6230389 Gear, Common, Countershaft
8 08 5spd 7710525 Ring, Retaining
9 08 6spd 7710525 Ring, Retaining
1 08 5spd 7710548 Ring, Retaining
1 08 6spd 7710548 Ring, Retaining
These should end up costing a million bucks!
 

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1stVictory said:
These should end up costing a million bucks!
Not if you actually read it.

Look closer. Most of the parts of the 5 speed are the same as the 6 speed. You have to buy 4-500 bucks in parts. The costly part is the motor tear down to install them. That, I can do on my own. For most, I know you're better off buying another bike. It's a lot of labor, but a fun weekend project if you're in to that kind of thing.
 

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jayleav said:
I posted this same question, at one time, and I swear I was told theparts alone were 2000 dollars. So, I'll trade or do the O.D. pulley .
I found the same pricing. When you buy the whole assemblies. But you can use the existing ones, add a gear with it's bearing and shim/clip and replace a slider which has the gear cut in to it, and change the shift drum.

Add to this, nuts and gaskets that should be changed and no problem keeping it around $500. But the labor is killer. The pulley is pretty straight forward and a huge difference in labor. So it depends on what you want, what you're willing to do, and what you enjoy. I'm even looking in to different ratios...
 
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