[RedVic]

Those of you who change your own tires like I do I found a great product to change tires with.

I used to own a No-Mar manual tire changer it was their Jr-Pro model, they have changed up their line up now and call it something else and now label it under their other brand Cycle Hill.

Well I used that No-Mar manual machine on my old Victory Cross Country Tour and my old Harley Davidson Ultra Limited but when I changed the tires on my Yamaha Star Venture Transcontinental the rear tire has a 55 series sidewall and no matter how hard you tried you just could not get the outer sidewall onto the rim.

Trying to find a local shop to mount the rear tire turned out to be a major pain in the rear end as each shop had 1001 excuses why they did not want to mount the tire.

So after finding a shop that was making excuses I said fine and started to leave and they said wait and they went ahead and mounted the tire. It was then and there I decided that a powered tire changing machine was needed for me to continue to change my own tires.

So I searched and found a nice machine from Derek Weaver it is the W-M807X which comes with the assist arm.

I also upgraded my air compressor to a nice Quincy QT-54 two stage 60 gallon 4 cylinder air compressor and added a magnetic starter box on it.

Now changing tires is a snap, work smarter not harder.

This Quincy QT-54 is a beast of a compressor and it is not priced bad either. I got mine from Northern Tool & Equipment.

The tire changer I bought directly from Derek Weaver and the price included shipping with a lift gate truck.

 

[MagVic CCT]

And, how many tire changes did all that cost?

 

[slickvic]

Wow .... that’s some heavy artillery. Nice equipment. Looks like you will be putting some miles on that Bike.

 

[RedVic]

The No-Mar cost me $1,000 dollars and I changed several sets of motorcycle tires on it, plus I installed my Ram 2500 tires with it.

Once I got the Yamaha with the 55 series sidewall the No-Mar just would not do the job. What used to take me an hour to an hour and twenty minutes to change a rear tire from my Victory and Harley this Derek Weaver powered machine does the same job in 5 to 7 minutes. Front tires would take about 20 minutes on the No-Mar and the Dereck Weaver powered machine 5 to 7 minutes.

Tire changes locally where I live they charge $300 hundred dollars in labor plus the cost of tires so the one time I had the victory dealer change my tires it was a little over $600 dollars for the tires and labor.

I can purchase my tires from Wingstuff.com as the 2018 Honda Goldwing uses the same tire as my Yamaha Star Venture Transcontinental.

I used to buy my Victory tires from Wingstuff.com as well because the older Goldwing used the same tire size as the Victory Cross Country Tour.

 

[53canuck]

Is OP single?

 

[primethious]

That is a damn fine looking machine!
I'm still on a Harbor freight for car tires, and a hoop for MC tires.

 

[KLA]

$300 to change a tire??? I think you need to find a new tire shop. That's ridiculous! At my local shop I pay $25 to change a tire if the wheel is off of the bike and $60 if the wheel is on the bike.

But, that is a nice tire machine. Similar to what my local shop has.

 

[jmstang302]

Will the tire machine outside clamp a 21"?

A Vegas wheel does not ziptie like the wider Magnum does.

 

[Poseidon]

Not a bad price considering what a manual NoMar will cost.

Weaver® W-M807X Motorcycle / ATV Tire Changer

 

[RedVic]

Will the tire machine outside clamp a 21"?

A Vegas wheel does not ziptie like the wider Magnum does.

The specs on the W-M807 state it will handle up to a 24 inch rim so a 21 inch would be no problem. My Yamaha has an 18 inch front rim and a 16 inch rear rim.

 

[RedVic]

Not a bad price considering what a manual NoMar will cost.

Weaver® W-M807X Motorcycle / ATV Tire Changer

I purchase this tire changer with the assist arm.

Weaver® W-M807X Assist Arm Combo Motorcycle Tire Changer

I also recommend purchasing one of these rim clamps to help push the sidewall of low profile tires down into the drop zone of the rim.

 

[spamaster]

I think I checked my oil once, some of you guys must love turning wrenches. That is too much for me, I can fix anything on a bike but only when I have to, I hate working on bikes/cars. Nice set up!

 

[RedVic]

I think I checked my oil once, some of you guys must love turning wrenches. That is too much for me, I can fix anything on a bike but only when I have to, I hate working on bikes/cars. Nice set up!

I got tired of dealers who don't take any pride in their work, they get grease all over the bike/car/truck they refuse to properly set the drive belt tension and instead they do the old poke at the belt a couple of times with their finger and say yep its in spec.

Between greasy finger prints and even marks where they have drug their dirty shoe across the seat I just said no more, I have all the tools I need so it just made since to do maintenance myself, that way I know everything was done to spec, bolts are torqued correctly, the drive belt is adjusted properly using the proper gauge which you can buy at any Harley dealer or online.

The only time I let the Victory dealer change my tires on my Cross Country Tour the tires were under inflated by as mush as 20 pounds of air pressure when I checked them after I got home. Just over $600 dollars for them to change the tires and when I got the bike home the next day I had to go behind them and correctly adjust the drive belt tension and properly set the tire pressure. I also checked the torque of the bolts involved and corrected those as well.

 

[slickvic]

Same just happened to me. Last tire change. Belt was too tight. Rear tire was over inflated by 10lbs. Front tire under inflated by 5 psi. I checked when I got home. Wasn’t happy. You can apologize all day which they did but it doesn’t take away the inconvenience bestowed upon ones self. The value of the wrk performed was destroyed and just became a bad deal.

 

[Poseidon]

If you want it done right... well, you know the rest.

Unless it is a warranty item or recall, I never take my bikes to the dealership. You typically find one of two situations with most dealer service centers. Either a brand new, fresh out of high school “mechanic”, or an older, more experienced mechanic, who isn’t getting paid enough to care. There are some exceptions, but if you find them, consider yourself lucky! Might even want to buy a lottery ticket that day!

I’ll do most things myself, but when it involves something I’m not comfortable doing myself (like clearancing the carriers) I’ll take it to someone that know what they are doing. I lucked out having Nick at 804 Motorsports so close. He took care of the performance mods on my Magnum. Between the carriers, and the dyno tune, it only made sense to let him do the rest of the performance installs as well. Everything since then, I’ve done myself. I enjoy doing the work and knowing it is done right, as long as I have the time to do it.

 

[jmstang302]

Belt was too tight.

This I don't understand. If it's a drive in or even a same day service , you have no business touching the adjusters. The pulleys need to be stone cold for proper adjustment.

If you want to tweak tracking ok. But the right side is a no no unless it's cold.

 

[Poseidon]

This I don't understand. If it's a drive in or even a same day service , you have no business touching the adjusters. The pulleys need to be stone cold for proper adjustment.

If you want to tweak tracking ok. But the right side is a no no unless it's cold.

Whoever did it doesn't know they can remove the suspension linkage bolt and lower the Swingarm to clear the exhaust. Instead they disassemble half the rear of the bike and have no choice but adjust the belt. Option 2 is they just want to increase the labor charge by doing it.

 

[RedVic]

This I don't understand. If it's a drive in or even a same day service , you have no business touching the adjusters. The pulleys need to be stone cold for proper adjustment.

If you want to tweak tracking ok. But the right side is a no no unless it's cold.

Actually the bike has to be at the ambient temp or better known as room temp.

If someone adjusts the belt when the motorcycle is hot they will end up with to loose of a belt when the motorcycle cools down to the ambient temp because the metal parts expand when they get hot and they contract when they cool back down to the ambient/room temp.

The belt actually gets tighter as the parts get hot and expand so when you adjust your belt when the parts are at room temp to the factory specs the belt gets tighter as the parts get hot.

Many people think it is the opposite that if you adjust the belt when the bike is hot the belt is going to be too tight when the truth is when the bike cools down the belt will be to loose and that is when you risk the belt jumping a tooth and can break it.

The reason they say to let the bike sit overnight is because too many people won't wait long enough for the parts to come back down to the ambient temp.

 

[notaharley]

Since I only change tires once a year, I use a no-mar bar and my own contraption.
I just mounted a CT on back of my Chieftain. Entire job including detailing the rim was 1:15.

I'd love to have a machine like that...but, geez. The local Yamaha dealer charges $25 to mount a tire and I do my own simply for convenience. If I feel lazy, I go to the Yammie dealer.

 

[spamaster]

I got tired of dealers who don't take any pride in their work, they get grease all over the bike/car/truck they refuse to properly set the drive belt tension and instead they do the old poke at the belt a couple of times with their finger and say yep its in spec.

Between greasy finger prints and even marks where they have drug their dirty shoe across the seat I just said no more, I have all the tools I need so it just made since to do maintenance myself, that way I know everything was done to spec, bolts are torqued correctly, the drive belt is adjusted properly using the proper gauge which you can buy at any Harley dealer or online.

The only time I let the Victory dealer change my tires on my Cross Country Tour the tires were under inflated by as mush as 20 pounds of air pressure when I checked them after I got home. Just over $600 dollars for them to change the tires and when I got the bike home the next day I had to go behind them and correctly adjust the drive belt tension and properly set the tire pressure. I also checked the torque of the bolts involved and corrected those as well.

I agree with that but I am lucky to have a great dealer and since I have bought several bikes from them tire changes are free (expect the tire of course).