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Breakdown!

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  1. Motorbikerx

    Motorbikerx Well-Known Member

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    Riding up Springbrook mountain road this afternoon, my lady on the back, bike going great guns!
    About halfway up there's a single lane section with a Giveaway on the downhill side, I was clear to go up, and did just past there and accelerating in second the bike suddenly quits!
    No electrical power....
    I roll to a stop, lucky there a fairly wide verge on the roadside right there to stop on.
    Fiddle with key and Killswitch.
    Nothing ...so off with sidecovers and seat.
    Short battery terminals with a spanner (wrench), there's power at battery...
    Ok fuses, check, check
    Oh here it is ignition, gauges , instruments 15 amp is blown!
    Get my spare fuse, I have 2x15amp spare.
    Ok try the first and key on, click!
    It blows, check yeah is blown.
    Ok not gonna waste my last fuse.
    What's the last thing I touched electrically on the yellow bike.

    Speedo when the sensor crapped out,
    Ordered a new one through a lead from here and fit a GPS speedo to tide me over, had to cut a coupla speedo wires to power it up and earth it.
    Fine for 2000kms till the new sensor arrived then I refit the Vic speedo and joined the 3 relevant wires, soldered and elect taped them and refitted headlight shell.
    Everything great for next 1300 miles and then stopped today.

    8 or 9 bikes passed at different times during our attempt to fix, none stopping or even acknowledging us,
    Times have changed.....
    Then a young fellow on an MT07 stops to offer help,
    He's an electrician and pronounces my wiring joins good so while the headlights open I try my last fuse .
    Ignition on, OK , kill switch on, fuel pump whirrrs, OK....looking good.
    Fire bike up, She runs! Rev rev rev OK!

    Now prior to this I've already called Roadside Assist on my phone, I pay extra on my insurance for all my bikes and cars and they're all insured and I'm covered for breakdown assist on all, a good deal..
    There's a tow truck on its way.
    But now the bikes running!
    So I turn it off and we start refitting headlight seat sidecovers when phone rings...Tow Truck driver saying he's about to leave Molendiner, about 50 mins away..
    I tell him the bikes now running and I'm gonna try to ride it home.
    So he aborts his trip out here.

    Bikes back together, girl gets on, I fire it up again, Great!
    Give it a coupla revs up to 2K and it then dies!!!
    Ok start to pull bits off and get to fuse, well my helper who stopped does while I ring tow truck driver back.
    He tells me he can't come out without the OK from the breakdown insurance people so I ring the breakdown line again and they say there's no record of my bike being insured with them! WHAT!!!
    They transfer me to the insurance company line but by now everyone I select 5 for bike insurance I get a recorded message saying they gone home at 5pm and ring back Monday in office hours....sheeeeittt!
    Farrrk so I ring Breakdown again and get same story that my bike rego number ain't in their system, nothing they can do...
    I tell em I have 6 vehicles insured with then and I'm stranded on the roadside in the mountains and it's getting dark quickly..
    They put me on hold while they look for a supervisor....

    My roadside helper has a 15 amp fuse spare so he takes headlight shell off while I strip sidecovers and seat, we try his fuse and it blows again.....

    Ok I say it's all down hill for about 5 miles winding road I tell him and my girl that we gonna roll down the hill on the bike, my girl on back holding the phone while we still on hold.
    And our newfound friend is gonna ride behind us with his hazard lights on...

    Interesting and almost silent ride back down, I know the road well, it's twist and turns , one lane bridges etc.
    I brake only as much as necessary and keep up a decent pace.
    My helper says later on he was actually having some trouble keeping up to me at times!
    Anyway we get to the bottom and there's a good place to stop, a park, a toilet block , and some overhead lighting it's now starting to get dark.
    I go to try Roadside Assist again but there's no phone reception where we are now!!!!
    What to do.
    Mates bike has veryskinny back seat and no pegs to I'm not gonna get on that, also he's a new rider and never pillioned, so that's right out...

    There's a shitty old car parked near toilet with a young driver I walk over say Gday and ask which way he's going...He says he's lost!
    Ok where's he tryna go?
    Nerang! Back our direction OK so I tell him my plight, ask if he can drive me back to my lady's place and get her son to drive me back to the bike.
    And as soon as my phone gets reception I'll try the Breakdown number again...
    He's fine with that and I jump in his car and we are off down the road to the second part on the windiest..
    Down through the Twisties we go while I watch my phone for signs of reception.
    He being a young driver steers with his left hand while holding his phone and smoke in his right hand.
    Negotiating a very twisty downhill road....
    I start to fear for my life.
    Ask why he's looking at his phone.
    He says he's still tryna figure out where he is!!!!
    I tell him it's a long winding road with no sideroads and we are on the right track so he stops looking at his phone screen but still keeps his phone in his right hand and steers with his left!!!!!
    Evidently most of our youth drive this way.....God help us!

    We make it to Tilly's house alive I sling the young bloke a few bucks for fuel for going out of his way. He thanks me and leaves.
    I bang on the house an tell out for Ben, my lady's son, tell him what's happened and I ring the Tow Truck driver as I still had his number from when he rang me.
    He says his boss won't let him leave without ok from breakdown insurance place...
    So I ring them yet again and start to get the story of my bike not being in their records..
    At the end of my patience I calmly explain my bike is by the roadside halfway up a mountain road my lady is still with it...it's getting dark rapidly and the fact I have 6 vehicles insured with them and that on Monday I'm going to cancel all my insurance with them!

    This has the desired effect, he put me on hold and a few mins later his boss comes on full of apologies we work out that there's been a mistake at their in in the paperwork when I sold my Vegas cancelled the insurance on it and reinsured the Kingpin with them.
    They're very sorry and the Tow Truck is on its way...
    Hooo fkn ray!
    Ben drives me back to the bike.
    Our young helper is still there with my lady...turns out they used to live next door to each other over 20 years before and he was friends with her son Ben...So it turned out to be a little roadside reunion!
    My bike got loaded on the truck, Tilly went home with her son.
    I got a ride back to my home/workshop in the tow truck despite the breakdown people saying I couldn't cos of covid!
    Tow truck driver isn't a covidder and he's old school so no probs about me riding in his truck.
    Bikes secure and we headed my place.
    Unload the bike ..Thank You!
    What a fkn day!!!

    Haven't bothered tryna work out what wrong with the yellow bike.
    It can wait...
    We might be able to all sort it out later... IMG20211016145955.jpg IMG20211016191444.jpg IMG20211016191502.jpg
     
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  2. normthenomad

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    Might not be one of the best rides you've been on, but a memorable one.
    Had a similar issue with my '06 KP, speedometer kept quitting on me , found a broken pink wire in the headlight bucket fixed that. While fitting the mass of wires and ballasts back in the headlight shell crinked a wire and it would intermittently short out and blow the fuse.
    I hate electrical problems, took several hours to find the short.
    Know what you mean about riders not stopping anymore. Flat tire outside of Roswell New Mexico and Portales 3 years ago. Had a pack of four Harleys pass me without even a glance, had a 60'sh guy and his family stop. Chatted with me while waiting on the tow truck. Gave me a couple bottles of water, I was starting to get a little low, and some good conversation.
    Turned out he and his family were Apache and would never leave someone beside the road alone.
    So, to the Harley guys who passed me: F^ck you yuppie bastards!
    I always stop, sometimes even for cars/pickup trucks. I ride some pretty desolate roads.
     
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    Well that sucked ... glad you were able to get everyone home safe be by the end of the day.

    Quite a story, enjoyed the read. Well done.
     
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    Read where you did some cutting and splicing and running a wire to ground. Be the first thing I'd check.
    Blowing fuses that fast is usually indicating a dead short straight to ground.
     
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    Fantastic write up, thank you. Yes sir, these tend to be the journeys we remember and talk about the most. I suspect you’ll get it sorted out quickly once you start the investigation. There’s likely a pinched or a rubbed through wire. Maybe even a black spot if it’s touching metal that will be from the spark of it shorting out.
     
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    Thanks!...when I uploaded and saw the size of my post I thought maybe a little long winded....and to think I skipped a few things
    Endless circles on the phone were really testing me.
    And yeah to the passing bikes we seemed invisible
    All's well that ends well.
    Though it's not over yet!
    Up now after 3 hrs sleep,
    Taking the Dodge Lancer to a high end car show today, not that it's a high end car, just quite rare DownUnder.
    May get a buyer.. .
     
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    Great write up and glad everything sorta worked out.
    But you bought the bike for adventure and it gave it to you... you should say thank you to it. Just kidding.
    Will be interesting to find out what exactly caused this, and good for you for threatening to cancel all the insurance. It's the only way, it seems, to get people to move their a$$'s. They take your money pretty damn quick but don't move that fast when you need them.
    Keep us updated.
     
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    I can identify with insurance. My clutch cable snapped a number of years back. Called for a tow and they said I don't have tow coverage.

    I'm like I have four f***ing cars with you and all had towing. How the f**k don't I have towing on the bike???

    Expensive and aggravating lesson to not assume on my part.

    Glad to hear you got back okay.
     
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    Yeah the mix up was a mess on their part and I assure you they haven't heard the last of it...
    Just sitting in the shade at the car show, been on my feet since 6.45am after three hours sleep.
    Walking round here lots to see and folks to talk cars n bikes with.
    Here's a pic, I'll start another separate thread as this may be needed for clues on my electrical dramas. IMG20211017072934.jpg
     
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    MOTOBIKERX said "Now prior to this I've already called Roadside Assist on my phone, I pay extra on my insurance for all my bikes and cars and they're all insured and I'm covered for breakdown assist on all, a good deal."

    Just an FYI , If you join the American Motorcycle Association and have your dues paid annually by automatic withdraw from your credit card or checking account you get roadside assistance for free. I covers your cars, bikes and the vehicles of relative living at your residence.
     
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    He's in Australia. :)
     
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    Yeah, doubt they'd come that far to help me, and if they did I'd probably die of starvation before they got to me
     
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    Great information for those in the US though.
     
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    Ok ,had a go at finding problem last night but used up my last 15 amp fuse.
    Gonna go buy more now the store is open.
    Rang the mechanic that used to work at the now closed Victory dealership in Brisbane, he's a good mechanic as and a straight shooter.
    When I told him the symptoms he said to check the output voltage when I rev it , cos bike will start then blow fuse around 2000 rpm.
    Hmmmm.....more to follow.
    If I can't find it I'll probably borrow a trailer and truck the bike up to Kevs workshop 80 miles north of me.
     
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    Not that I pay much attention, but I believe the previous owner changed out a regulator, if I remember correctly... That would have been some time back and sounds not related and just FYI.
     

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