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  1. Justa_poser

    Justa_poser Active Member

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    I didn't read all of the responses - so maybe I missed this.

    It's common knowledge that many of the motorcycle-specific oils have no specifications printed on the labels.

    Harley, Honda, Yahamalube, Kawasaki, Suzuki.... and the list goes on. Some will say "JASO MA", API SN, SM or whatever - but do not display the JASO nor the API symbol. Neither Amsoil nor Mobil 1 motorcycle-specific oils display the JASO certification symbol (they did their own testing, as do others)

    JASO (Japanese version of the U.S. API) has their own set of standards for motor oils and other stuff. The JASO MA specification is not ONLY about the wet clutch friction test.

    Just because an oil passes the wet clutch friction test, does not mean that it would pass the JASO specification for everything in that spec. Case in point - Rotella 15W-40 passed the wet clutch friction test FOREVER - but there's also a requirement to have less than .012% sulphated ash, and the R15W-40 was slightly over this limit until a few years ago.

    There are some of you that are good at this sort of thing - and you might want to go to www.bobistheoilguy.com and read up and then look at the used oil analysis section for motorcycles. Lots of good info here.

    Others will simply want to buy oil that has a picture of a motorcycle on the bottle.

    Some should probably just have the Victory Dealer change their oil.

    For those of you that care - here is the official list of JASO Certified motor oils, as of March 1st, 2016

    http://www.jalos.or.jp/onfile/pdf/4T_EV_LIST.pdf


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    I agree with the oil analysis, and its great that Lloydz makes aftermarket parts for victorys. But, he's not always right.
     
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    I figured I'd get beat up a bit on the replies for what I posted.. and I deserved it. I too was lazy and I took the dealer at his word that he was doing what he said he was for what I was paying him. I don't any more.. from anyone. Yes.. the dealer was apprised of the situation on my return from the trip and he was very flippant about the results. The other situations happened on subsequent visits, like what happened to my friend and his over-torqued drain plug. I do my own work now for the most part. I also have an old timer who wrenches on the side that knows more about wrenching than anyone else in the area and I trust him.. AFTER I check what he does.

    All of this is off the topic tho.. someone mentioned the extra value you get using Vic oil changed at a dealer.. that's why I brought this up. It's not added value if it's all smoke and mirrors.
     
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    No coupons.
    Sorry.

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    Not taking mine to the dealer anymore. I did on the 1st service and about crapped my pants on what they charged.
    A service manual and an oil change kit would've been cheaper.
     
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    I did not see Amsoil or mobile 1 on the list ..,now what?
     
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    +As you can see on page 4 of the 2008 Technical Service Bulletin, Freak, AMSOIL Motorcycles are JASO MA2 rated. The new MVI 20W-40 Synthetic V-Twin Motorcycle Oil is as well. (AMSOIL's AHR SAE 60 Synthetic Heavy Weight Racing Oil is JASO MA.)

    I'm a source for at-cost pricing, if interested.

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  10. Justa_poser

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    See my post, above.

    Most large oil blenders have their own "in-house" engineers that are fully capable of testing their own motorcycle oils. They print whatever specs they meet on their containers, and we take their word for it.

    These motorcycle oils are such a tiny percentage of their total sales that it is not economically feasible to submit each and every small batch grade of motorcycle oil for certification.

    For example, Genuine Kawasaki Motorcycle oil prints THIS on the label
    "Recommended in applications requiring API SL, JASO MA and JASO MA2 engine oil"

    My Yamalube bottle says
    "This oil meets or exceeds the JASO MA requirements, which includes the highest certified motorcycle engine oil rating that ensures proper wet clutch performance"

    Neither of them say that they are "Certified" nor do they show any of the certification symbols.

    Same for Genuine Suzuki motor oil. Amsoil motorcycle oil, Mobil 1 motorcycle oil. And many more.

    European motor oil regulations are different - if any of you are reading that JASO certification document - be aware that some of those oils are only sold in Europe or Asia - but not here.
     
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    Everyone ! :attention1: Please !!!
    End this madness!! For the love of all that is righteous !!! Please !!!!! :beatdeadhorse:

    Just use VICTORY OIL and change every 5k like the book says !!!!! :notworthy:

    It doesn't say anything on the bottle.
    You will be less confused. :banghead:
     
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  12. Justa_poser

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    You know that when it has pictures of motorcycles on it, then it's good for motorcycles.


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    OIL THREAD!!! OIL THREAD!!! All this about what classification on oil... Not 1 about When you tighten your drain plug no more than 15 LBS of torque!!! So when are the Dunlop E4s coming out???
     
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    Go Away!
     
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    My eyes went blurry trying to find any oil I have used in a bike. No rhyme or reason as to how that was layed out I could follow.
     
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