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Always use a towel...or how I lost a screw, and not the ones in my head

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  1. Havoc70

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    The screws in my head have always been loose. OK, so now that I have the new brake pedal on my new to me CCT, have the foot controls moved forward, pedals adjusted, shift linkage replaced, it's about time to take her on a shakedown cruise.

    So I start the cruise control diagnostic courtesy of the great @Pauljp and noticed the light didn't go out when I entered the diagnostic mode. Jimmied the throttle and it went out Awesome! It's the throttle switch. I noticed the throttle had no free play in it or hardly any. Nowhere near the 2-4mm the manual called for. OK, time to adjust the throttle. The front cable was nigh on impossible to turn, so I had to remove the cruise control switch to get a better angle, carefully placed the screws where I wouldn't lose them, adjusted the cables, and then when I went to re-install the switch, dropped one of the screws into the bike somewhere, it didn't fall through to the ground. They NEVER do. I should have a towel or something draped over it to catch an errant falling screw, but alas, such was not the case. So now this tiny little bastard is sitting there waiting to wreak havoc and cause some catastrophic FOD event.

    So, questions:

    1) What size is that cruise control switch screw, does anyone know? I'm sure one screw will hold it OK, but I don't like knowing one is missing. Or does anyone have a spare or two they'd be willing to part with? Or suggestions on how to possibly fish it out.

    2) I think the previous owner installed a quarter throttle ring, based on rotation (seems to be just about 90 degrees). Is it a serious ***** to remove those things?

    PS: The throttle switch has been disconnected, it seems to be very problematic anyway based on various threads here and still didn't work after adjusting the free play. I thereby deem it vestigial.
     
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    1st you don't want to remove the 1/4 turn throttle ring!

    Get the required freeplay in the throttle. It's adjustable at both ends of the cable.

    Does the red power light come on the cruise control panel?

    Try pushing the set button a few times. My XC requires pushing the set button 3 times to set it the 1st time for each ignition cycle. Single touch after the 1st set until I turn it off.
     
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    The 2 fasteners that hold your control panel to the bracket are M4 - 0.7 x 8mm Phillips pan-head machine screws.
     
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    The throttle has about 2mm of freeplay. I was doing the diagnostic of the cruise control: ignition on, run switch engaged, not started, press and hold middle button, press on and when released the cruise light should go off. The light wasn't going off. I jiggled the throttle and the light went out so I knew it was the throttle switch. I adjusted the cables at the handle and got about 2mm play out of it but then when I did the close throttle test, the cruise light blinked steadily. So I just disconnected the switch all together. I do have the service manual, I'll try doing the full adjustment mentioned in the manual.

    Though to be honest, I've read enough threads on this forum about that switch I might just leave it disconnected. If I need it off, I can just quickly hit the on/off switch. Since it's a single signal switch, I can just hit "on" when it's on and it will turn off.
     
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    I had a feeling you'd know. I didn't see the specs in the service manual for the screws, unless I missed it somewhere.
     
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    It is not in the service manual. I took mine off and measured it. Just for you. Don't tell anyone. :beer3:
     
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    I figured if anyone didn't know, I'd have to pull out the calipers lol. You are the man. By the way, love your videos.
     
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    By the way, I haven't heard the term FOD since I was in the military. Do we have something in common?
     
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    Probably. Former B-52 DFCSO (Gunner) here. Havoc70 was our callsign, 644 BMS out of KI Sawyer AFB.
     
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    KI Sayer? In Upper Michigan KI Sayer?
     
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    I always try to use a magnetic tip screwdriver in those circumstances to avoid dropping and fishing for the small screws with they take a suicidal jump into the nether regions.

    Perhaps a magnetic pick up tool may help locate your run away screw.
     
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    Won't work so well with SS screws.
     
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    That would be the one. Left shortly before it closed.
     
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    Yeah, I have one somewhere. I shoulda used it.
     
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