[Wilburforce]

When should this be done? Service manual makes no mention of it in the service schedule.

 

[iabob]

When should this be done? Service manual makes no mention of it in the service schedule.

It's never done.

 

[Oldman47]

You have a hydraulic valve system so no adjustment is needed.

 

[SPEEDFREAK]

that was easy

 

[nickr914]

When should this be done? Service manual makes no mention of it in the service schedule.

If your worrying about the sewing machine sound from the top end, it's normal, just keep revs at ~3k, and shift between 3500-5400 rpm you'll have a happy motor, constant revs below 3k can end up with air displacing the oil, then top end sounds like ****, then performance goes to ****..

I run my motor 3k-3400 rpm cruising, I barely ever leave 4th unless I'm on a highway, then I may hit 5th...

30 mph town, **** sometimes I'll stay in first, other times(quiet times) I'll go to 2nd, 2nd for 45mph(when quiet times, 3rd), but 4th 60mph 3k rpm on the nose!

Vision, 4th is 55mph 3k rpm...

I ride with a hardley ablesons guy sometimes, he'd be in 6th doing 30, then forgets to shift down all them gears, when we are at a light... It's ****ed up seeing a 900+ lb bike almost going over on a 300 lb man...

 

[Oldman47]

I ride with a hardley ablesons guy sometimes, he'd be in 6th doing 30, then forgets to shift down all them gears, when we are at a light... It's ****ed up seeing a 900+ lb bike almost going over on a 300 lb man...

The HD will respond best to the same approach as you use on your Victory. Your HD friend needs to learn how to ride his bike.

 

[bikendad]

Never, ride it like you stole it!

 

[VicBilly]

Everything I have read says lugging an engine is more harmful than redlining it.
And...what is it with those Hardly riders, and their chugging along at low RPM?
I've witnessed this quite often, and I just can't figure out why they do it???
For myself, I never cruise at under 2000 RPM, which means I stay in 3rd gear around town at under 40mph, and I stay out of 6th gear unless I am on the Interstate highway running at 70 mph, which is 2500 RPM.
BTW, Honda stuck with 5-speeds on their big bikes for a very long time. On my 5-speed Honda VTX 1800, 70mph in top gear was 3000 RPM.
Now, finally, in their 2018 Gold Wings, they've switched to a 6-speed manual, with an optional 7-speed DCT. In 6th gear, at 75mph, the new Gold Wing is only turning 2500 RPM!
Which is one of the reasons they get 41+ mpg whereas 2016 5-speed Wings only got 34!
Now that my Gunner is paid off in-full, I toy with the idea of a Wing. They're really sweeeeet.

 

[nickr914]

Everything I have read says lugging an engine is more harmful than redlining it.
And...what is it with those Hardly riders, and their chugging along much too low RPM?
I've witnessed this quite often, and I just can't figure out why they do it???
For myself, I never cruise at under 2000 RPM, which means I stay out of 6th gear unless I am on the Interstate highway running at 70 mph, which is 2500 RPM.
BTW, Honda stuck with 5-speeds on their big bikes for a very long time.
Now, finally, in their 2018 Gold Wings, they've switched to a 6-speed manual, with an optional 7-speed DCT. Now that my Gunner is paid off in-full, I toy with the idea of a Wing. They're really sweeeeet.

I don't understand either, my friend tells me I have to be damaging my engine running at half redline all of the time... There's something wrong with my bike if I can't do 30 in 5th...
Firstly, I can do 30 in 6th, but why would I want to?
And shifting 5 ****ing times either way is too much work in a city/town.. I am in 2nd most of the time...
Me friend has an older yamaha 5 speed tranny, 70 he's vibrating good...

I'm gonna change the pulley on this kingpin just so I'm in a better range of speed...

 

[Spacecoast]

I run my motor 3k-3400 rpm cruising, I barely ever leave 4th unless I'm on a highway, then I may hit 5th...

Can't say that I "cruise" above 3K, but close to it. Never below 2K and I find myself using third and forth gear the most. Only a few times have I used sixth gear since I rarely ride interstate highways. I would say that the sweet spot for my bike is around 2,800 rpm cruising.

 

[broggyr]

I am typically between 2000-3000 cruising, routinely upshift between 3000-3500 when behaving myself, and between 4000-5000 when I am having fun.

 

[BrandonM7]

Everything I have read says lugging an engine is more harmful than redlining it.
And...what is it with those Hardly riders, and their chugging along much too low RPM?
I've witnessed this quite often, and I just can't figure out why they do it???
For myself, I never cruise at under 2000 RPM, which means I stay out of 6th gear unless I am on the Interstate highway running at 70 mph, which is 2500 RPM.
BTW, Honda stuck with 5-speeds on their big bikes for a very long time.
Now, finally, in their 2018 Gold Wings, they've switched to a 6-speed manual, with an optional 7-speed DCT. Now that my Gunner is paid off in-full, I toy with the idea of a Wing. They're really sweeeeet.

You know why they lug them. Have you ever ridden one? They don't really make noticeably better power revved out than when lugging, and their BRAH-BRAH-BRAH pipes sound cooler when lugged under hard throttle. When your primary reason to ride is to make the most noise possible and get people to look at you, you lug it and make it sound better. Simple HD owner logic.

We're Turning Some Heads!

 

[BrandonM7]

By the way, y'all are a bunch of slackers - I adjust my valves every single time I crank the bike. Step up your game.

 

[poptop]

I shift at 6400 because it doesnt run very good after that!
Never even thought of 6th gear unless I have to go past 120 mph,
I always figured to get the most bang for your buck use what you paid for!!
I,ll be gettingvout of jail next week !

 

[iabob]

All bikes are not the same, all engines are not the same. SO...advice on what’s best is not the same. So if you look at a dyno graph of a factory (stock or S1) Harley TC, or the Indian Thunderstroke that was designed to be just like it, you’ll notice that the torque peaks very early, like around 2000 rpm. So that’s a good range for that motor to cruise in. The Vic 106 has a higher peak to its torque curve, so it’s best cruising range is a little higher than those others. Swap cams and it’s even higher. Compare hat to a short stroke spor bike motor that revs to 10k rpm and their torque peaks beyond our redline. They cruise at 5000-6000 rpm. Just because the advice is good for a Vic 106 doesn’t mean it’s good for a Harley 103.

 

[nickr914]

It's a subject that has been discussed many times before here on VOG.
So...All you people who are new to motorcycling!
Listen up!!
Once and for all!!
Monitor RPM on your instruments!!
Listen to the pitch of your beautiful, Victory 106 engine!!
Stay above 2000 RPM when cruising at a constant rate of speed.
Which means...if you're riding around town at 40 mph, you should be in either 3rd or 4th gear.
At 40 mph in 4th gear, that will be right around 2000 RPM.
Do NOT shift to 5th!!!
And NEVER go to 6th gear unless riding on an Interstate highway at 65mph or higher.
When one cruises at 70mph on a Victory in high gear, engine velocity will be 3000 RPM.
If you should ride up behind a vehicle that is going slower, and you need to accelerate and pass, your 106 will love it if you downshift to 5th, or even 4th gear, and roll back the throttle to get around him.
Then, when you've pulled past, and you are ready to once again cruise at 70 (or higher :angel4, shift back into 6th, and go on your merry way.

Back to the new, 2018 Honda Gold Wing for just a second, if that's all right?
The brand new, 6-speed transmission on these bikes is set up perfectly for Interstate cruising.
Honda Powersports reports that a new, 2018 Wing, when running at 75mph in 6th, is only turning 2500 RPM!!
Now, that's beautiful!!
But don't worry.
No way I'd trade my Gunner.
Not for anything.
We've had that discussion here on VOG several times, too.
I'd never be able to get for it what it is worth if I tried to sell it outright.
And trading it would be stupid, because I would be offered only 5 or 6 grand for it, when, in reality, it is worth twice that much, with only 22,000 on the odometer!!
I just turned 67 years old, and I might be looking for a highly refined machine as my final, motorcycle purchase.
I think a Gold Wing is the way to go.
The Vic is sooo coool, with it's loud pipes, and radical looks.
I paid it off last December, so it isn't costing me very much to keep it on the road.
I'll hang on to it, until my son returns to the US from the service.
...Matter of fact, I'm gonna drive down to Nault's Honda this afternoon, and take a look at the Wings up close.
They even have a leftover 2016 F6B.
Let you all know what I learn....
Peace

I'd trade in a heartbeat for a wing, but problem is, I'm not gonna pay 30k

 

[bikendad]

It's a subject that has been discussed many times before here on VOG.
So...All you people who are new to motorcycling!
Listen up!!
Once and for all!!
Monitor RPM on your instruments!!
Listen to the pitch of your beautiful, Victory 106 engine!!
Stay above 2000 RPM when cruising at a constant rate of speed.
Which means...if you're riding around town at 40 mph, you should be in either 3rd or 4th gear.
At 40 mph in 4th gear, that will be right around 2000 RPM.
Do NOT shift to 5th!!!
And NEVER go to 6th gear unless riding on an Interstate highway at 65mph or higher.
When one cruises at 70mph on a Victory in high gear, engine velocity will be 3000 RPM.
If you should ride up behind a vehicle that is going slower, and you need to accelerate and pass, your 106 will love it if you downshift to 5th, or even 4th gear, and roll back the throttle to get around him.
Then, when you've pulled past, and you are ready to once again cruise at 70 (or higher :angel4, shift back into 6th, and go on your merry way.

Back to the new, 2018 Honda Gold Wing for just a second, if that's all right?
The brand new, 6-speed transmission on these bikes is set up perfectly for Interstate cruising.
Honda Powersports reports that a new, 2018 Wing, when running at 75mph in 6th, is only turning 2500 RPM!!
Now, that's beautiful!!
But don't worry.
No way I'd trade my Gunner.
Not for anything.
We've had that discussion here on VOG several times, too.
I'd never be able to get for it what it is worth if I tried to sell it outright.
And trading it would be stupid, because I would be offered only 5 or 6 grand for it, when, in reality, it is worth twice that much, with only 22,000 on the odometer!!
I just turned 67 years old, and I might be looking for a highly refined machine as my final, motorcycle purchase.
I think a Gold Wing is the way to go.
The Vic is sooo coool, with it's loud pipes, and radical looks.
I paid it off last December, so it isn't costing me very much to keep it on the road.
I'll hang on to it, until my son returns to the US from the service.
...Matter of fact, I'm gonna drive down to Nault's Honda this afternoon, and take a look at the Wings up close.
They even have a leftover 2016 F6B.
Let you all know what I learn....
Peace

You're singing the right tune on the 106 but you're still 1 gear too high. I would never cruise at 2000 rpm for any length of time, it's still lugging. This motor needs to be above 2300, 2500 is more like it and 2700+ is where it's really happy.
On the Wing I agree, I really need to ride one.

 

[nickr914]

Ok is everyone else's posts out of order?

 

[BrandonM7]

Ok is everyone else's posts out of order?

Yes, it's confusing the hell out of me.

 

[KLA]

You know why they lug them. Have you ever ridden one? They don't really make noticeably better power revved out than when lugging, and their BRAH-BRAH-BRAH pipes sound cooler when lugged under hard throttle. When your primary reason to ride is to make the most noise possible and get people to look at you, you lug it and make it sound better. Simple HD owner logic.

We're Turning Some Heads!

Love the "South Park" clip. That was funny as hell!!!