vfc3 or stage 1 flash

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  1. worm5932

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    Well its time for more fuel! I have the atom bomb mufflers and will install the high flow filter and remove the seal when I have this done. So, I would like to hear from anyone who has the vfc3 on a cross bike. I know that the stage 1 flash will be fine I am concerned however about future mods, cams as soon as funds allow, most likely next winter. Thanks!
     
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    If you are getting cams, get the VFC3. I run RPW's, stage I, Took the foam thingy off the air filter and unplugged the 02 sensors. Runs Strong!!
     
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    +1
     
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    who has one? Was it hard to set up?
     
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    anyone??
     
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    A little update on this....I pulled my plugs after 300 miles plus and didn't like what I saw. (Have RPW's, unplugged o2's, and noise strip pulled.) They looked pretty lean looking. The insulator is still white as new. I just ordered VFC3. I would rather be on the rich side than lean.
     
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    Do you have the stage 1 flash?
     
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    Yep, It runs pretty strong with only a rare pop on decel. But I noticed some excess bluing on pipes and decided to check my plugs again. I have been trying to talk myself into believing it wasn't lean. But Its still pretty cool here and my motor seems a lot hotter than my Vegas ran. I think it is right on fence of OK vs too lean. I think the insulator should have some tan color. It kinda looks rich on WOT. Check the pics and tell me what you think. [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    Jbravo..what pipes do you have? And do you have the high flow filter, seal removed?
     
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    RPW slip-ons, stage 1 download, noise reduction seal removed, high flow filter, and O2's unplugged.
     
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    Wwhen are you installing the vfc? I can't find anyone else with any experience on this. The pcv is another route but without a dyno I would want the autotune, them were over 800 bucks and I still don't have a recomendation. There are 2 harley shops locally with dynos but that's it.
     
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    As soon as it arrives. Just placed order yesterday. I will see how easy it is when it comes and let you know. It seems pretty straight forward. It will only add fuel to existing map and not take away fuel, so it can't make it any leaner and damage anything. I emailed Lloyd to get a base map. I don't know if the PC has the plugs made for Victory or not, the VFC is made specifically for Victory, I like that. We'll see how easy it is to tune.
     
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    Keep me posted. If it works for you ill most likely go that route.
     
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    You have to look down inside the plug. Thats where you read them. Yours look rich. In the old day when there was lead in the gas it was easy to read. Now we have cheap gas with clean air actives. Blue general is rich and gold or yellow is lean.
     
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    +1 Plug reading is an in-exact science. You have to look down in the plug at the top of the insulator, you really need to chop the throttle and ignition to do it right. Looking at the tops of the pistons is a better indicator or a sniffer to monitor your AFR. I'm no expert on 4 stroke motors but used to do a lot with high performance 2 stroke waverunners. Plug reading was just not precise enough.
     

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