The Official 2012 Election Thread

Wall Street Journal reports on $10 billion in Democratic "Crony Capitalism" -

"WSJ Investigation Source: $10 Billion of Obama Stimulus to “Green Energy” Companies Not Really about Creating Jobs – "
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"Here is a Wall Street Journal report about an investigation they have done into $10 Billion of the Obama Stimulus Package that went to “Green Energy” companies under the guise it would creat thousands of new jobs. But the investigation apparently found that there is a huge discrepancy between claims by Obama that it created jobs and the actual reality. Toward the end of the report, they mention a source within the “Green Energy” movement who apparently told them: “Yes, Green Energy is the way to go, but they shouldn’t claim it is about bringing jobs. They can say it is about Green Energy, but it’s not about jobs.”

That’s exactly what we have known all along. The nearly $800 Billion Obama Stimulus was never really about creating jobs. It was about funding all the pet Left-wing projects and cronies that Democrats had wanted to fund for decades. With Obama’s election, and Democrat control of the House and Senate in 2009, they finally had their opportunity. They took it. It was a boondoggle for Democrat special interests and their pet projects around the country. It was not about what was best for America."

http://freedomslighthouse.net/2012/02/24/wsj-inves...

Obama Administration caught inflating and falsifying Stimulus Job Report? This report is stunning. The false claims by the Obama Administration are transparent.

Quote from the article:
"Tuesday in a statement responding to questions from the Journal that the administration knew the reports were not "100 percent accurate" but that the plan was supposed "to create jobs, not count them."


"White House Tally Appears to Overstate Stimulus Jobs"

By LOUISE RADNOFSKY and MAURICE TAMMAN

The number of jobs the Obama administration credits to federal stimulus money could be overstated by at least 20,000 of the 640,000 claimed, a Wall Street Journal analysis found.

Recipients of the government grants and contracts appear to have made mistakes when estimating the number of jobs that have been saved or created, according to the Journal's review. Some recipients said they were confused by forms that asked how they spent the money.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125729438785426663...

Obama's Double Talk on Sky-High Gas Prices

Talk about flip flopping there is plenty of it here. Bad policy in 2008 was Bush's fault. Bad policy in 2012 I think would be his fault but no...the truth changes. Alot of misinformation out there. perhaps President Obam should let somebody else take this issue on before the economy tanks taking his election chances with it. Gas and diesal go up...so does the price of everything else it takes to live.. Do we have a Lemon Law for Presidents?

Posted 02/21/2012 06:37 PM ET


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inShareEnergy: When gas prices hit $4 a gallon in 2008, candidate Barack Obama said it was due to previous failed energy policies. Now that prices are heading still higher, President Obama calls it progress.

Already, pump prices are higher than they've been in previous years, suggesting they will top $4 soon and possibly reach an unprecedented $5 this summer.

President Obama is starting to notice the political implications. So he sent Robert Gibbs — now a top campaign adviser — out to tell the public not to worry.

"Just on Friday, the Department of the Interior issued permits that will expand our exploration in the Arctic," Gibbs said Sunday. "Our domestic oil production is at an eight-year high, and our use of foreign oil is at a 16-year low. So we're making progress."

"Progress" isn't exactly how Obama described the country's energy picture in 2008, when gas prices were closing in on $4 a gallon. Then, it was a clear sign of "Washington's failure to lead on energy," which was "turning the middle-class squeeze into a devastating vise-grip for millions of Americans."

"For the well-off in this country," Obama said in May 2008, "high gas prices are mostly an annoyance, but to most Americans they're a huge problem, bordering on a crisis."

In August that year, he declared rising energy costs to be "one of the most dangerous and urgent threats this nation has ever faced" and that gas prices "are wiping out paychecks and straining businesses."

While Gibbs is right that domestic production has climbed in the past three years, Obama's policies had nothing whatsoever to do with it.

Subscribe to the IBD Editorials Podcast Oil coming from offshore wells was in the pipeline, so to speak, during the Clinton and Bush years, when those permits were issued. And the oil pouring out of North Dakota is the result of drilling on private lands.

Obama, in fact, has made it clear for years that he has no real interest in boosting domestic production.

When President Bush announced plans in 2008 to lift the moratorium on offshore drilling, Obama dismissed it, saying "it would merely prolong the failed energy policies we have seen from Washington for 30 years."

"Offshore drilling," he said, "would not lower gas prices today, it would not lower gas prices next year and it would not lower gas prices five years from now."

In a big energy speech he gave in August 2008, Obama argued that "if we opened up and drilled on every single square inch of our land and our shores, we would still find only 3% of the world's oil reserves."

And while in office, Obama's done everything he can to limit production — slow-walking offshore permits, killing the Keystone XL pipeline, making it even harder to get oil out of federal lands.

Instead of aggressively expanding oil production, he offered a set of ridiculous alternatives — hugely wasteful "green" energy subsidies, a call for a million electric cars by 2014 and costly fuel economy mandates that won't make a dent in consumption for decades.

With gas prices up 93% since Obama took office, we're seeing just how well this approach works.

"Inspectors to Review Stimulus-Data Errors"

By LOUISE RADNOFSKY and MAURICE TAMMAN

WASHINGTON—The head of the board that tracks stimulus spending said inspectors general on Friday will review causes of numerous mistakes in an October report estimating the number of jobs created or saved by the program.

"I think there's enough embarrassment to go around," said Earl Devaney, chairman of the Recovery Accountability and Transparency Board, in an interview with The Wall Street Journal. Twelve inspectors general sit on the board. It's "clear that the job could have been done better," he said.

By LOUISE RADNOFSKY and MAURICE TAMMAN

WASHINGTON—The head of the board that tracks stimulus spending said inspectors general on Friday will review causes of numerous mistakes in an October report estimating the number of jobs created or saved by the program.

"I think there's enough embarrassment to go around," said Earl Devaney, chairman of the Recovery Accountability and Transparency Board, in an interview with The Wall Street Journal. Twelve inspectors general sit on the board. It's "clear that the job could have been done better," he said.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125981166068374185...

Well, it's kind of like Bush letting North Korea develop and test a nuclear weapon.
We really couldn't do anything about it as we were already in 2 other wars and North Korea has a huge freaking Army that would overrun Northern South Korea in a matter of hours.
Now we are squeezing North Korea using diplomatic means to force it to come back to the negotiating table and just lately is seems that it might be working.
Alway remember that China will not like it at all if Korea re-unifies.

Iran has their nuclear "stuff" buried so deep that nothing short of a nuclear weapon from Israel will penetrate deep enough to disturb it. (I'm not even sure a nuke would do it)
They don't have "overflight" permission, so they would have to be refueled in transit. (That would involve us, and everyone in the World knows it).
Only the USA has bunker busting bombs that maybe, possibly, might penetrate deep enough to destroy them.
We are currently designing new, deeper penetrating bombs.

2 years after a bombing, they are up and running again and all the people who were against the present regime have now rallied behind them. (Nationalism)

Bombs don't solve these types of problems.
The last and current head of Mossad have both expressed severe reservations about bombing.
Our CIA and our military leaders have expressed deep concerns about us getting into another war at this time.

NutinYahoo (Netanyahu) is a warmonger and I've never trusted him as an ally.

Our military industrial complex (that Ike warned us about), is crapping bricks due to the cuts in defense procurement spending currently on the table.
They have fired up the Hawks, democrats and republicans, to bang the war drums to keep the taxpayers money flowing their way.

From an Israeli Newspaper article;
Former Mossad chief: Israeli strike on Iran will lead to regional war
Meir Dagan said in a television interview that a military strike will result in massive rocket attacks from Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas.

By Haaretz
Tags: Iran Israel Mossad Ehud Barak Meir Dagan

According to Dagan, Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas will respond with massive rocket attacks on Israel. In that scenario, Syria may join in the fray, Dagan said on the television program “Uvda”.

Dagan also followed up on recent public comments that he made on the topic, after which he was criticized for speaking out on, saying that the Prime Minister, Defense Minister and Finance Minister cannot prevent him from speaking his mind. “We are not living in an undemocratic country; in democratic countries, even people like me have the right to express their opinions,” Dagan said.

Dagan added that such a war would take a heavy toll in terms of loss of life and would paralyze life in Israel. These comments were in response to a recent remark by Defense Minister Ehud Barak, in which he claimed that if a war breaks out between Israel and Iran, it would result in no more than 500 dead Israelis.

"A war is no picnic, but in any scenario there won't be 50 thousand or 5,000 or even 500 dead,” Barak told Israel Radio in an interview three weeks ago, on November 8. Barak also attacked Dagan’s outspokenness on the Iran issue. “The way in which this discussion has taken place, by including those who previously held high positions, was sometimes despicable.”

Barak added, “When the head of the Mossad unprecedentedly brings journalists to Mossad headquarters and instructs them to oppose the prime minister… I think that is very serious behavior. I would have expected him to act intelligently, without manipulations."

It was announced earlier on Tuesday that Dagan will lead a group that will endeavor to immediately alter the system of government in Israel.

Maariv reported Tuesday that the group is operating without much publicity, backed by a group of leaders in the fields of business, culture and law that has already begun to raise funds.

Former IDF Chief of Staff Amnon Lipkin-Shahak, businessman Gad Zeevi and Herliya Interdisciplinary Center President Professor Uriel Reichman have already joined the new group.

Hey, did any of you get this news from watching Fox?

So - mr. big's solution to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons is?

Be specific please. What is your plan

Note: I see you cannot even type the name of the Prime Minister of Israel without mis-spelling it, demeaning and denigrating him. Can't you address the issues without being childish?

I posted the full Osama Bin Laden speech to the USA where he specifically stated his goal of bankrupting us.
I had to get it off of Al Jazeera because none of the USA media would post it.
And yes, we have far surpassed a Trillion dollars spent in response to a couple of Saudi's with box cutters.
Mass hysteria

We can balance that amount with the amount or money we subsidize the oil industries.

He is a religious kook.
His wife today stated that it's God's will that Rick Santorum become president.

He is everything that Protestants feared about Kennedy.
I don't want our country run according to the dictates of the Pope.

You make some valid points, but I see two serious flaws in your thinking. Both based on over simplification:

1. If Government workforce gets smaller, then contractors are hired at a greater loss to the tax payer than the Gov. Employee by a minimum factor of + 150%. I do not mind that my Security professionals are down 41% and my contract guard force and contract technical staff are up considerably more than that at a HUGE cost to you tax payers, but you should.

2. ONLY businesses that produce and sell goods from within the united states contribute to the economy. Importing anything that could be produced in the US is a net loss even greater than the neutral a federal employee is in the grand scheme of things. SO, if you are an American Job creator who only sells overseas bravo, but if you are a Chinese job creator who primarily sells in the US, please try to accept Socialism a little more enthusiastically. In the latter case you would be underwriting a communist regime.

OK, I surrender.

It might have been overstated by, using your numbers, 3%.

Let's tar a feather them for 3%.

What are we going to do with the officials of the Bush administration who stated that the Iraq war's cost to us would never exceed 100 Billion dollars, and we would have cheap oil as thanks for us liberating them.
Death by a thousand cuts?

Your priorities and values are really screwed up.

He is a NUT and a Yahoo in addition to being a warmonger, and I am not beholding to Israel in any shape or form. IMHO.
I'm actually sick of our foreign policy in the region bowing to Israeli interests over ours.
I also feel that our elected officials should be reminded of that fact.

It is spelled correctly in parenthesis.

I see that you don't read what you post as you copied and pasted the exact same thing twice in a single posting. (2659)

Childish?
From the guy who posts ha ha ha ha ha 100 times?

Now, as to my plan.
I don't know what the CIA and our Military are briefing the President, so how could I have a legitimate solution?
I do know that both have stated it is not now time for war.

Mitt Romney's campaign rented the Detroit Lions stadium for a large rally.
65,000 seats, all of them remained empty.
The 1,200 or so that showed up sat on the field. :oops

Jeb Bush chastised the republican candidates in Dallas yesterday.

"I used to be a conservative, and I watch these debates and I’m wondering, I don’t think I’ve changed, but it’s a little troubling sometimes when people are appealing to people’s fears and emotion rather than trying to get them to look over the horizon for a broader perspective, and that’s kind of where we are," - Jeb Bush.

We're surrounded by Kooks and Idiots. Both on the right and left. And we have the Excuse in Chief. Sorry state of affairs.

The answer is - you have no answer. It's interesting you think Prime Minister Netanyahu is a warmonger, when he is surrounded by countries in his entire region that are committed to completely destroying Israel, and killing all the Jews in it. It is too bad that the U.S. policy has been to support the most stable, and for years, the only democracy in the entire region. It is a poor reflection on you, that you do not think our strongest ally in the Middle East is worth standing by.

And yes, you mis-spelling Prime Minister Netanyahu's name was childish.